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MilesMk1 (8:36:09 PM): Hey there.
Umbrafer (8:36:16 PM): The word is that he probably won't be able to make it. He would have notified you, but I completely forgot to send him your email address.
Thematrian1 (8:36:37 PM): ah. Well, he's as you left him, then. This trance state thing is getting a bit creepy.
Umbrafer (8:37:06 PM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (8:37:36 PM): Well, I spent about an hour, hour and a half at Home Despot in preparation for tonight
Umbrafer (8:37:40 PM): I think I'm ready for this
Thematrian1 (8:37:45 PM): haha
Thematrian1 (8:37:48 PM): ok then, let's see it
Dragcrell (8:37:54 PM): (but but its soooo peirty)
Umbrafer (8:38:50 PM): The following is my proposed "shopping list". Obviously things can be dropped or added depending on suggestions or if Sigrun already has a supply.
MilesMk1 (8:39:17 PM): Heh... He'll just have a surprise when he gets back and finds out Blake has been practicing his Biotech, and added an IV, a feedig tube, and is considereing a catherer.
Umbrafer (8:39:23 PM): The big one: insecticide+sprayers. I nearly did a dance when I saw how much they had of the stuff.
Thematrian1 (8:39:41 PM): that would have been tricky to explain
Umbrafer (8:39:54 PM): It was difficult enough as it was :)
Umbrafer (8:40:14 PM): Axes, mattocks, picks, spades, shovels, sledgehammers, pickaxes, etc.
Umbrafer (8:40:18 PM): Generators
Umbrafer (8:40:22 PM): Refrigerators
Umbrafer (8:40:25 PM): Water filters
Umbrafer (8:40:35 PM): PVC piping, other misc. piping and tubing
Umbrafer (8:40:47 PM): Flashlights, cordless lights of various varieties
Umbrafer (8:40:54 PM): Batteries
Umbrafer (8:41:05 PM): Room AC units/air filtration units
Umbrafer (8:41:16 PM): Rugs and carpets
Umbrafer (8:41:23 PM): Respirators
MilesMk1 (8:41:30 PM): They don't sell trailers, do they? We could probably use one for all this stuff.
Thematrian1 (8:41:35 PM): You happen to know what Sigrun has bunches of batteries, but on the other hand they're small.
Umbrafer (8:41:46 PM): Ladders
Thematrian1 (8:41:53 PM): The generators and refridgerators are the two big...ok, and the ladders
MilesMk1 (8:42:16 PM): Ladders can be lashed to the machine gun turret...
Umbrafer (8:42:18 PM): Storage containers? I don't think the chat likes them.
Umbrafer (8:42:24 PM): There we go.
Umbrafer (8:42:42 PM): Two posts in a row where I said storage containers got eaten
Umbrafer (8:42:45 PM): And no other posts
Umbrafer (8:42:52 PM): Anyway.
Thematrian1 (8:43:04 PM): lashed with what?
Umbrafer (8:43:07 PM): Razors/eXacto knives
Umbrafer (8:43:10 PM): Getting to that:
MilesMk1 (8:43:14 PM): Bungee cord?
Umbrafer (8:43:16 PM): Lumber—hardwood slabs, etc.
MilesMk1 (8:43:19 PM): Or duct tape.
Umbrafer (8:43:21 PM): Caution tape
Umbrafer (8:43:28 PM): Insulation—particularly reflective
Umbrafer (8:43:33 PM): Staple guns
Umbrafer (8:43:38 PM): Power tools (misc.)
Umbrafer (8:43:41 PM): Rope and chain
Umbrafer (8:43:52 PM): They've got a massive variety of the stuff with some fairly high strength
Umbrafer (8:44:00 PM): Nails/nailguns
MilesMk1 (8:44:12 PM): Flares?
Umbrafer (8:44:26 PM): Good call
Umbrafer (8:44:33 PM): Add those.
Umbrafer (8:44:39 PM): Some plants, if we have the room.
Thematrian1 (8:44:46 PM): hahaha
Umbrafer (8:44:47 PM): (And if they have them)
Umbrafer (8:44:58 PM): Good for air quality, plus they make the living space more pleasant.
Umbrafer (8:45:27 PM): Deer barrier.
Umbrafer (8:45:29 PM): Chicken wire.
Umbrafer (8:45:33 PM): Sand, gravel.
Umbrafer (8:45:36 PM): Concrete mix.
Umbrafer (8:45:39 PM): Cinderblocks.
Umbrafer (8:45:41 PM): Mortar.
Umbrafer (8:45:45 PM): Cedar mulch.
MilesMk1 (8:46:12 PM): So I think it's safe to assume I'll be asked to steal a truck?
Thematrian1 (8:46:19 PM): or two
Umbrafer (8:46:27 PM): Starter and ornamental fertilizer.
Thematrian1 (8:46:37 PM): you guys have been slacking off on the grand theft auto lately, it's time to get back into it anyway
Umbrafer (8:46:40 PM): And that's pretty much it.
Umbrafer (8:46:41 PM): :D
MilesMk1 (8:46:42 PM): Ornamental fertilizer?
MilesMk1 (8:47:05 PM): Does Home Despot - as opposed to Depot - also carry tasers and so on?
Thematrian1 (8:47:10 PM): no
Thematrian1 (8:47:28 PM): Wally's World of Weapons might, but they're pretty expensive and so more often ordered than purchased.
MilesMk1 (8:47:38 PM): Darn. We'll have to get those someplace the owners are a lot more likely to shoot at us.
MilesMk1 (8:47:48 PM): Like... yeah.
Umbrafer (8:48:02 PM): The ornamental and starter fertilizers are better for making bombs with.
Thematrian1 (8:48:15 PM): if you want a buttload of hunting rifles, now, W3 can hook you up.
Umbrafer (8:48:29 PM): Waldo World Arena!
Thematrian1 (8:48:29 PM): what do you hunt in the middle of Chicago? Well...
MilesMk1 (8:48:43 PM): Oh. For ornamental plants. I was envisioning little cow turd bricquets pressed into cute animal shapes.
Umbrafer (8:48:50 PM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (8:49:05 PM): But yeah. Some of this stuff (like the cedar mulch) is of dubious effectiveness, but it makes sense to Alex at the moment :)
Umbrafer (8:49:18 PM): (In theory it makes sense in general, but these insects are a little large to be put off by some cedar)
MilesMk1 (8:49:24 PM): Well, at least it'll smell nice...
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MilesMk1 (8:49:55 PM): Aw, son of a...
Umbrafer (8:51:39 PM): While we have a minute, anyone have other suggestions for additions/subtractions/alterations?
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Umbrafer (8:52:43 PM): AIM difficulties still?
Thematrian1 (8:52:58 PM): Trickster: are you involved with this, and if not, where are you?
Thematrian1 (8:53:04 PM): (Yeah. Nothing else, though)
Dragcrell (8:54:15 PM): eh probely ether helping get the stuff
Umbrafer (8:54:36 PM): Question: are we hitting the Stuffer Shack first?
Umbrafer (8:54:47 PM): If so, for what?
MilesMk1 (8:55:15 PM): We probably should try hitting one to improve our food variety, if nothing else... Maybe get some electronics we can use for parts.
MilesMk1 (8:55:42 PM): And we ought to try quickly, because they're the first place the mobs will be after.
MilesMk1 (8:56:10 PM): But I guess it's not that essential...
MilesMk1 (8:56:47 PM): Ooh... One thing we need to get somewhere - water filters.
Umbrafer (8:56:57 PM): Yep
Umbrafer (8:57:00 PM): Home Despot has them.
Umbrafer (8:57:11 PM): Not that we shouldn't get them elsewhere too if we find them
MilesMk1 (8:57:19 PM): Did you list them? I must have missed it.
Umbrafer (8:57:25 PM): We also need washcloths. That thing was icky.
Umbrafer (8:57:26 PM): (Yep)
Dragcrell (8:57:29 PM): Dragcrell rolled 7 6-sided dice: 1 3 1 1 2 3 5
Dragcrell (8:57:36 PM): >_<
MilesMk1 (8:58:06 PM): Well, we can hit a Stuffer Shack en route to Home Despot...
Umbrafer (8:58:48 PM): Indeed. There was one, as I remember.
MilesMk1 (8:58:53 PM): And I'll be looking for trucks along the way.
Thematrian1 (8:58:57 PM): the one you saw a mob outside of?
Umbrafer (8:59:08 PM): Well, we know it's there and the mob isn't visible anymore.
Thematrian1 (8:59:18 PM): that's true
Dragcrell (9:00:05 PM): *looks at a spot about 3 feet in front of them* "You need something and if so coudl you kindly make it so my combanions can see you at lest?"
Thematrian1 (9:00:28 PM): a big winged rat fades into visibility
Thematrian1 (9:00:36 PM): it's flapping around Trickster's head
MilesMk1 (9:00:42 PM): We probably should also pop a drone and make sure there really is no visible police presence...
Umbrafer (9:01:15 PM): Yep. At some point I need to go raid my lifestyle for my last two stratos, if no one has burned the place down yet.
Dragcrell (9:01:27 PM): "Thank you. Now was there a resion for your comeing here?"
MilesMk1 (9:01:42 PM): #Hey... Didn't Trickster spot some weird rat-looking spirit following us when we were looking into his... problem/#
Thematrian1 (9:01:43 PM): It dives and tries to land on your shoulder, Trickster
MilesMk1 (9:02:04 PM): "Aw, you made a friend." "What does it want?"
Umbrafer (9:02:09 PM): #I… can't remember. At all. Probably the drugs, sorry.#
MilesMk1 (9:02:34 PM): *to Trickster* "Didn't you mention seeing something like this earlier? Rat-like, I mean."
Thematrian1 (9:02:40 PM): Assuming you let it, it sits up on its hind legs, pokes its ratty nose into your ear, and whispers a bit.
Dragcrell (9:03:05 PM): *looks at the bat* "ya I think this is the same...."
Dragcrell (9:06:10 PM): *sighs then looks at Alex and Blake* "Ether of you need me?"
Umbrafer (9:06:18 PM): #Reminds me… didn't those UB kids call us or something?#
MilesMk1 (9:06:30 PM): "Why? You going somewhere?"
MilesMk1 (9:06:48 PM): #Yeah, but we told them we had a medical emergency and we might come later.#
MilesMk1 (9:07:11 PM): #Tried to make it sound like we were actually wanted to come but couldn't.#
Dragcrell (9:07:26 PM): *points at the bat thaing* "Not shoure what this is about but ya."
Umbrafer (9:07:39 PM): #We should decide if we're going to respond soon.#
MilesMk1 (9:08:24 PM): "So... You're going to go somewhere with a flying rat, even though you don't know why? Is this a... fox thing?"
MilesMk1 (9:08:43 PM): #Sort of up to them to try to contact us again since the phones died.#
MilesMk1 (9:09:12 PM): #And personally, I think we all have too much stuff to take care of of our own...#
Dragcrell (9:09:36 PM): "Not shoure if it ment all of us or just me." *looks at the bat* "all of use or just one?"
Umbrafer (9:09:44 PM): #Yeah. Having them as a loose end makes me nervous, though.)
Umbrafer (9:09:47 PM): *#
MilesMk1 (9:10:07 PM): #I do have that canister of supposed nerve gas...#
MilesMk1 (9:10:30 PM): #Very similar to insecticide in many ways, are nerve agents...#
Thematrian1 (9:10:39 PM): (That was at your house, right? And it was more of a carefully-sealed crate than a canister.)
MilesMk1 (9:11:05 PM): (Right, right. Got it with some remote-detonated explosives.)
Thematrian1 (9:11:20 PM): (yep)
Umbrafer (9:11:50 PM): #I've got the nasty feeling we're going to need it, but I'm not sure that it's the time yet.
Umbrafer (9:11:52 PM): *#
MilesMk1 (9:12:39 PM): #Probably not. Unless they get insistent...#
MilesMk1 (9:13:11 PM): #So, you figure we should let Trickster go with the rat-thing? Is this a bad thing this didn't surprise me at all?#
MilesMk1 (9:13:27 PM): (that this)
Umbrafer (9:13:43 PM): #Probably. I don't know… if he wants to go sure, I guess.#
MilesMk1 (9:14:11 PM): "So, are you supposed to go with it alone?"
Dragcrell (9:14:47 PM): *looks down at the bat-thing* "still waiting for it to ancer my question on that"
Umbrafer (9:15:14 PM): In the meantime, what's our distance to the 'Shack?
Thematrian1 (9:15:15 PM): It licks Trickster's ear.
Thematrian1 (9:15:25 PM): the one with the ex-mob? 3-4 blocks
Dragcrell (9:16:58 PM): *squchis face* "Just keeps saying 'Master says, come.' and that I know where it is."
MilesMk1 (9:17:40 PM): "You probably do. You saw it go into a building, remember?"
MilesMk1 (9:18:02 PM): "Maybe you can just see if it'll wait while we load up on supplies, and then we could consider going together..."
Dragcrell (9:18:43 PM): "Ya good idea. Would that be ok with your master?"
Umbrafer (9:18:53 PM): "That place… seems like months ago."
Thematrian1 (9:19:07 PM): (ha ha)
Umbrafer (9:19:19 PM): (Probably true for her)
Thematrian1 (9:19:39 PM): ('struth)
MilesMk1 (9:19:51 PM): "Doesn't it just."
Dragcrell (9:21:07 PM): "We was planing on checking it out anyway." *turns to the bat* "Yes but we need to get suplyes as we come tho please let your master know that."
Dragcrell (9:21:57 PM): "yes."
MilesMk1 (9:22:27 PM): "All right, let's go raiding, then."
Thematrian1 (9:22:43 PM): Yo ho ho. The time is almost 9 am
Umbrafer (9:24:44 PM): *Voom*
MilesMk1 (9:25:05 PM): "Keep a lookout for trucks we could commandeer."
Thematrian1 (9:25:24 PM): The van roars out. Were you going Shacking?
Umbrafer (9:25:31 PM): Yep
MilesMk1 (9:25:43 PM): Oh, and remember the drone survey.
Umbrafer (9:25:47 PM): Ah yes.
Thematrian1 (9:25:50 PM): drone survey?
Umbrafer (9:25:52 PM): Doing that with the unarmed Strato.
MilesMk1 (9:26:02 PM): Checking for police presence / response.
Umbrafer (9:26:11 PM): Household income, number of bathrooms, that kind of thing.
Umbrafer (9:26:28 PM): Flitting about looking for armed folk in general and lawmen in particular.
Umbrafer (9:26:36 PM): (Lawfolk, if you want to be gender inclusive about it)
MilesMk1 (9:27:01 PM): (Don't think we met a female security guard yet. The GM is sexist! :p )
Thematrian1 (9:27:23 PM): All right. A few blocks later, you're outside the stuffer shack. The windows have been cut out (they're plastic, not glass), and the door is lying under a streetlight.
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MilesMk1 (9:27:39 PM): "Hmm."
Umbrafer (9:27:47 PM): "Something's gone down here."
MilesMk1 (9:27:54 PM): "Don'
MilesMk1 (9:28:07 PM): "Don't see any blood or casings..."
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Umbrafer (9:28:24 PM): Any signs of people?
MilesMk1 (9:28:41 PM): *looks for blood stains or ejected bullet cases*
Thematrian1 (9:28:59 PM): nothing outside
MilesMk1 (9:29:26 PM): "Well, let me go in and see if there's anything left."
Thematrian1 (9:29:40 PM): Inside: you don't see anyone offhand.
Umbrafer (9:29:43 PM): Any signs of lawfolk?
Thematrian1 (9:30:02 PM): nope. Not within or above
MilesMk1 (9:30:14 PM): (BTW, I sort of assumed the moron ork twins and the other guy came with us again - did they really?)
Thematrian1 (9:30:23 PM): (yes)
MilesMk1 (9:30:30 PM): *listens for buzzing or clicking*
MilesMk1 (9:30:43 PM): (possibly for slithering too)
Thematrian1 (9:30:54 PM): where are you?
Umbrafer (9:31:02 PM): Returning unarmed Strato to van, MMG Strato joins Blake.
Dragcrell (9:31:09 PM): *looks around on the other front*
MilesMk1 (9:31:37 PM): Standing outside the shack, looking in one of the openings (with most of my body out of LOS from the inside).
MilesMk1 (9:31:50 PM): AR ready, but not aimed inside.
Thematrian1 (9:32:03 PM): all right. Roll perception
MilesMk1 (9:32:09 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 2 1 1 1 3 6
MilesMk1 (9:32:12 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
MilesMk1 (9:32:17 PM): Gag.
Dragcrell (9:32:26 PM): Dragcrell rolled 7 6-sided dice: 1 3 2 1 5 4 1
Umbrafer (9:32:32 PM): Umbrafer rolled 8 6-sided dice: 1 1 3 6 1 1 1 6
Umbrafer (9:32:36 PM): Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice: 6 2
Umbrafer (9:32:38 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 3
Dragcrell (9:32:40 PM): ...........
Umbrafer (9:32:42 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 6 3 1 5 5
Umbrafer (9:32:46 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 2
Thematrian1 (9:33:32 PM): Trickster: are you involved in this?
Dragcrell (9:34:29 PM): (yep asrtal for the most part *poins finger up at there shity roll)
Thematrian1 (9:34:33 PM): No police within 4 blocks
Umbrafer (9:34:53 PM): Hm. That was all I was able to survey?
Thematrian1 (9:35:06 PM): what else did you want?
Umbrafer (9:35:36 PM): I suppose that's the question. Fair enough.
Umbrafer (9:35:58 PM): Then I'm going to amend my order to bring back the unarmed Strato. It's going to sit there and squeal if it detects approaching vehicles.
Umbrafer (9:36:04 PM): Within… six blocks.
Thematrian1 (9:36:07 PM): so noted
Thematrian1 (9:36:44 PM): Blake: you hear no buzzing, scuttling, or anything similar
MilesMk1 (9:36:51 PM): No humans, either?
Thematrian1 (9:36:53 PM): beyond that it's hard to say. However
MilesMk1 (9:37:07 PM): Yeees?
Thematrian1 (9:37:55 PM): There's a red stain spreading from under the stand nearest you. That stand is entirely empty, by the way. According to the signage, it used to host Snax
MilesMk1 (9:38:34 PM): #Got blood, and it's still flowing... Going to check it out, but I think this place might be done for.#
MilesMk1 (9:39:50 PM): I'm going to move in, gun ready, and move around in a crouch to check out the source of the stain - staying with my back facing the outside if possible.
MilesMk1 (9:40:04 PM): I circle-strafe the blood stain.
Umbrafer (9:40:22 PM): Jumped into the MMG Strato and covering him.
Thematrian1 (9:40:30 PM): it's easy to do
Thematrian1 (9:41:22 PM): You have approached the blood stain. Now what?
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Umbrafer (9:43:30 PM): Any sign of the stain source?
MilesMk1 (9:44:00 PM): I'm actually trying to circle the stand in such a way that I'll see where the blood is coming from.
Thematrian1 (9:46:06 PM): all right. around the edge of the stacks, you peer at an elf girl in a Stuffer Shack uniform with her hair in a single, giant blue spike. She's holding a shotgun and watching the blood and brains leak out of a guy in a big fuzzy
Thematrian1 (9:46:07 PM): jacket
Thematrian1 (9:46:13 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 15 6-sided dice: 2 6 3 1 4 1 6 2 3 1 5 3 3 5 1
Thematrian1 (9:46:23 PM): roll Stealth for peering unobtrusively?
MilesMk1 (9:46:36 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 4 6-sided dice: 2 2 4 3
MilesMk1 (9:46:40 PM): Hah-hah...
MilesMk1 (9:47:22 PM): #Got an employee with a shotgun...#
Thematrian1 (9:47:23 PM): you can't muffle a loud footfall. She looks up, frightened, and points the shotgun at you. Reaction if you want to try and act before her
MilesMk1 (9:47:33 PM): Yes, please.
MilesMk1 (9:47:36 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 10 6-sided dice: 3 5 1 2 6 3 2 6 3 1
MilesMk1 (9:47:47 PM): Eugh...
Thematrian1 (9:48:03 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 3
Umbrafer (9:48:04 PM): You probably got as many successes as her… damn, she's an Elf.
Umbrafer (9:48:07 PM): Oh, wow.
Thematrian1 (9:48:08 PM): you may still act before her if you wish
MilesMk1 (9:49:05 PM): What would it involve to take the gun away from her?
Thematrian1 (9:49:36 PM): cross the eight feet or so separating you, then...er...
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Umbrafer (9:49:50 PM): Unarmed Combat maneuvers of some variety, probably.
MilesMk1 (9:49:54 PM): Also... damn.
MilesMk1 (9:50:06 PM): I was about to ask what rules this game uses for shotguns.
Umbrafer (9:50:21 PM): At this range it doesn't matter much
Dragcrell (9:50:32 PM): "Alex whats up did he find anythaing?"
Umbrafer (9:50:35 PM): If she was at about nine meters you'd be dead, though.
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Umbrafer (9:50:40 PM): ;)
MilesMk1 (9:51:09 PM): Right, right... What can 8 points of ballistic and 6 points of impact do against the mighty flechette. ;)
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Umbrafer (9:51:32 PM): Once you've already dumped down to 2S, nothing :D
Umbrafer (9:52:41 PM): (Dragcrell: I'll handle the question once I get an in-game second)
Dragcrell (9:52:59 PM): (no worrys :P)
Thematrian1 (9:53:01 PM): Blake has the first action.
MilesMk1 (9:53:28 PM): Right... I'd like to step up and rip the shotgun out of her hands - or at least grab the barrel and make sure it's pointed at the ceiling.
MilesMk1 (9:53:45 PM): Grab and hold it.
Thematrian1 (9:54:05 PM): hm. Ok, let's call that melee combat, a contest of unarmed skills.
MilesMk1 (9:54:26 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 10 6-sided dice: 5 5 1 4 1 3 4 4 3 2
Thematrian1 (9:54:37 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 15 6-sided dice: 4 6 1 6 3 2 3 5 5 2 1 1 3 6 6
Umbrafer (9:54:45 PM): Ninjagirl!
Thematrian1 (9:55:23 PM): You win by quite a lot. You have grappled her, one hand closed over her wrists, and one directing the shotgun barrel toward the ceiling
MilesMk1 (9:56:03 PM): What does she do? Does she seem lucid?
Thematrian1 (9:56:25 PM): Lucid, yes, though awfully frightened. At first she tries to break your grip, then she tries to bite you
Umbrafer (9:56:36 PM): Sensor lock on the girl, relaying info to Trickster.
Umbrafer (9:56:41 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 2 4 6 5 6
Umbrafer (9:56:45 PM): Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 4
Thematrian1 (9:57:23 PM): (We could roll a contest of strength, here, but I'm not going to bother)
Thematrian1 (9:57:40 PM): Blake: incidentally, you see no other people but observe that the shelves are somewhat shredded at your eye level
Dragcrell (9:58:35 PM): "I'll head over and give him a hand." *slowly walks over to Blake and the Elf*
Thematrian1 (9:58:54 PM): All right. Just now they're out of sight behind the shelves
MilesMk1 (9:58:59 PM): "Take it easy, I'm not going to hurt you."
MilesMk1 (9:59:33 PM): "Are you out of your mind, kid? Your family own this place, or something? Starting a war over a bunch of junk food?"
Thematrian1 (9:59:54 PM): She relaxes a bit, and shakes her head.
Thematrian1 (10:00:08 PM): She sees something over your shoulder, and tenses up again
MilesMk1 (10:00:18 PM): #Alex, what's behind me?#
Umbrafer (10:00:30 PM): Is there anything behind him except for the Strato?
Thematrian1 (10:00:32 PM): Alex: Trickster is behind him.
Umbrafer (10:00:45 PM): #Trickster came in.#
MilesMk1 (10:00:58 PM): "He's not going to hurt you either."
Thematrian1 (10:01:01 PM): Trickster: you get a look at the scene. The card verifier is missing, there are bullet marks on and around the counter
Dragcrell (10:01:45 PM): *softly* "She ok looks like she was in a rather nasty instdent here" *looks at the girl*
MilesMk1 (10:02:31 PM): "We just need a few things from the store, then we're going to leave, quietely. If you stop trying to bite me, I'll give you your shotgun back before we do."
MilesMk1 (10:03:07 PM): (quietly)
Thematrian1 (10:03:37 PM): She nods.
MilesMk1 (10:04:30 PM): "Why are you still here, anyway? You should be heading home, it's going to get nasty out there as soon as the rest of the city realizes all of Chicago is locked down."
MilesMk1 (10:05:15 PM): *motions for Trickster and the other guys to grab what we need, and stays with the girl.*
Dragcrell (10:05:47 PM): *nods and getts to work*
Thematrian1 (10:06:06 PM): There's basically nothing left: paper clothes, some batteries, a mostly melted FrigiPop on the ground by the regitser
Thematrian1 (10:06:48 PM): Blake: Intelligence
MilesMk1 (10:06:54 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 6 4 1 5 2 3
MilesMk1 (10:06:58 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
MilesMk1 (10:07:02 PM): 10,5,4
Thematrian1 (10:07:03 PM): easily succeeds
Thematrian1 (10:07:27 PM): the shotgun the elf girl is holding is custom-designed for a dwarf, or someone with similar proportions
MilesMk1 (10:08:04 PM): "Whose shotgun is this? Wasn't made for a human..."
Thematrian1 (10:08:58 PM): Softly: "One of them had it. He got shot. I took it."
Thematrian1 (10:09:19 PM): Someone shot the security camera, by the way
MilesMk1 (10:09:27 PM): #Looks like this place was pretty thoroughly sacked already... Feel bad for the girl... Why do I run into every pathetic puppy-eyes stray out there?#
MilesMk1 (10:09:42 PM): "They were fighting over the stuff?"
Thematrian1 (10:10:06 PM): "They were just brawling. I let them do what they want. Then the gang showed up."
MilesMk1 (10:10:30 PM): #There was a gang in here.#
MilesMk1 (10:10:47 PM): "Did you see what colors? Were they in cars? On bikes?"
Umbrafer (10:10:51 PM): #Damn. Looters move quick.#
Thematrian1 (10:11:09 PM): "I don't know the colors. They had bikes."
MilesMk1 (10:11:38 PM): #Go gang, sounds like. Hate the little buzzing fucks.#
MilesMk1 (10:12:12 PM): #Well, this place is a wash... What do we do with the girl?#
Umbrafer (10:12:19 PM): #Punks. They wouldn't know driving if it ran them all over from behind.#
MilesMk1 (10:12:26 PM): (sounding a little sheepish)
MilesMk1 (10:12:55 PM): #Heh... You might yet get a chance.#
Thematrian1 (10:12:58 PM): She's standing now, and she's got the shotgun pointed at you, just for the record.
MilesMk1 (10:13:39 PM): Oh. I thought I had it, and promised to give it back before I left...
Umbrafer (10:13:45 PM): #I already know what will happen. What happened all the other…# Three take aim actions on the shotgun.
Thematrian1 (10:14:00 PM): Wait, with the MMG?
Thematrian1 (10:14:03 PM): Good luck with that
MilesMk1 (10:14:09 PM): Well, I'm ready to dodge if I see that trigger finger move...
Umbrafer (10:14:20 PM): She may lose a few fingers. Or arms.
Thematrian1 (10:14:28 PM): priorities, right
MilesMk1 (10:14:55 PM): Wait... Is this aiming at me sudden, or was she doing it all the time, more or less, since I let go of the gun?
Thematrian1 (10:15:11 PM): All the time. More wary than hostile
MilesMk1 (10:16:23 PM): #Well, if it was my own place, I'd offer to let her stay until she figured out how to get back home, but it's not...#
Umbrafer (10:16:43 PM): Held action to blow away the shotgun if I see her pulling the trigger. I'm not particularly trying to aim in such a way that some bullets will hit her, but I'm not going out of my way to avoid it either.
Umbrafer (10:17:03 PM): #Yeah… not much we can do unless we want to try to retake one of our safehouses#
Thematrian1 (10:17:28 PM): (Speaking of, Jerome has been on his own for some time now.)
Umbrafer (10:17:33 PM): #I don't really want to be bringing people we don't know past the outside.##
Umbrafer (10:17:35 PM): *--#
MilesMk1 (10:17:38 PM): (I know, I know...)
Umbrafer (10:17:45 PM): (Yeah, he's on the list)
MilesMk1 (10:17:52 PM): #I understand.#
Thematrian1 (10:18:08 PM): (Other than the cops, you mean, Alex?)
MilesMk1 (10:18:11 PM): #Not like we can take in every damn lost civillian anyway.#
Umbrafer (10:18:58 PM): (Ok, people that we're not already not averse to hogtying and possibly killing messily as well as not already knowing)
Thematrian1 (10:19:36 PM): (Fair enough)
Thematrian1 (10:20:17 PM): After a pause: "Goodbye."
MilesMk1 (10:20:59 PM): "Yeah. Sorry about startling you."
Thematrian1 (10:21:14 PM): She shakes her head again
MilesMk1 (10:21:24 PM): BTW, were there cars outside, or in the area?
Umbrafer (10:23:08 PM): Elf girl remains unventilated.
Thematrian1 (10:23:12 PM): there are a few parked down the street, one abandoned in the road far down the street
MilesMk1 (10:24:25 PM): *heads out of the place carefully - watching her, but not pointing the gun*
Umbrafer (10:25:11 PM): Once he's to safety I break the held action/aim and return Stratos to the van.
Thematrian1 (10:25:42 PM): You're out. Trickster, also leaving?
Thematrian1 (10:27:52 PM): assuming so, the group then drives off to the home despot?
Umbrafer (10:28:04 PM): Indeed.
Umbrafer (10:28:22 PM): *Vrooom*
Umbrafer (10:29:21 PM): What sort of terrain is this one in?
Umbrafer (10:29:34 PM): Going to check around for other signatures or visible vehicles/people, as usual.
MilesMk1 (10:29:35 PM): These orks are going to be telling all kinds of shit about me when we get back, aren't they? I'm going to be known as the guy who breaks into places to have conversations with the victims.
Umbrafer (10:29:42 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 1 2 5 6 3
Umbrafer (10:29:45 PM): Umbrafer rolled 8 6-sided dice: 3 5 4 3 1 6 3 2
Umbrafer (10:29:48 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 2
Umbrafer (10:29:50 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 3
Thematrian1 (10:29:59 PM): The nearest home despot is deep into Westside, which is a land of docks and dock workers
Thematrian1 (10:30:08 PM): largest Ork population in the city
MilesMk1 (10:30:57 PM): We still need a truck.
MilesMk1 (10:31:05 PM): Or a van,
MilesMk1 (10:31:14 PM): Looking for one the whole time we're driving.
Umbrafer (10:31:17 PM): Well, again, they ought to have some trailers there (if they haven't all been stolen)
Thematrian1 (10:31:19 PM): drive drive drive. The Home Despot is huge, with its own collection of truck docks
Umbrafer (10:31:21 PM): But if we find one, good times.
Thematrian1 (10:31:24 PM): There aren't any on the road, though
MilesMk1 (10:32:07 PM): Staying hopeful and looking around anyway.
Thematrian1 (10:32:45 PM): so noted, but there aren't any trucks on the road
MilesMk1 (10:33:07 PM): Determined to crush my spirt, are you? Fine! ;)
MilesMk1 (10:33:36 PM): *rides in sullen silence because there are no trucks, and no elf girls*
Thematrian1 (10:33:55 PM): (There was one, and you left her alone)
Umbrafer (10:36:21 PM): No sign of anyone in the immediate environs?
Thematrian1 (10:36:42 PM): You have arrived at Home Despot. There are trucks in the back. The parking lot is full, with a few people heading inside.
Umbrafer (10:37:00 PM): Do the people look particularly desperate or looterish?
Umbrafer (10:37:02 PM): Or armed?
Thematrian1 (10:37:17 PM): The people you see are neither
MilesMk1 (10:38:14 PM): Damn corporate drones, protecting their hive.
Umbrafer (10:38:19 PM): #This place may still be doing business…#
Umbrafer (10:38:31 PM): #And may have legit security.#
MilesMk1 (10:38:49 PM): #Do we want to actually buy from them if they are?#
Umbrafer (10:39:13 PM): #Tough call. Might be easier than the alternative…#
Umbrafer (10:40:06 PM): #Probably the way to go. Better not to stir up trouble where it isn't already…#
MilesMk1 (10:40:27 PM): #I guess most of the stuff we're looking for isn't hugely expensive.#
MilesMk1 (10:40:42 PM): #And we do have that ten thousand we got...#
Umbrafer (10:41:14 PM): #Yeah…#
MilesMk1 (10:41:27 PM): #So, do we drive up, roll down a window, and ask?#
Umbrafer (10:41:50 PM): #Don't see any other way.# *Drives up*
MilesMk1 (10:42:12 PM): I'll take off my helmet to appear less paramilitary.
MilesMk1 (10:42:25 PM): How are the people reacting to us?
Thematrian1 (10:42:29 PM): Leaving your assault rifle behind?
Thematrian1 (10:42:40 PM): you catch a few curious glances, but everyone's attention is on HD
MilesMk1 (10:42:46 PM): Well, I was just going to ask them from a car window.
MilesMk1 (10:42:58 PM): AR within reach, but not brandished.
MilesMk1 (10:43:45 PM): I'm assuming we're not getting so close they can see it if it's lying across my knees.
Thematrian1 (10:44:19 PM): fair enough. There's one person within easy reach, an ork lady in a tailored suit.
MilesMk1 (10:44:34 PM): Are the others in HD uniforms?
Thematrian1 (10:44:54 PM): There's no one outside in HD uniforms
MilesMk1 (10:45:06 PM): Interesting.
Thematrian1 (10:45:43 PM): She stops, and turns to look expectantly at you
MilesMk1 (10:46:11 PM): "Hey there. You guys doing any business?"
Thematrian1 (10:46:45 PM): She lokosat you strangely. "I'm taking a few days off."
MilesMk1 (10:46:54 PM): #Can you scan for snipers, please?#
Thematrian1 (10:46:56 PM): ('looks at')
Umbrafer (10:47:09 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 4 2 6 1 5
Umbrafer (10:47:13 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Umbrafer (10:47:16 PM): Umbrafer rolled 8 6-sided dice: 6 1 2 5 6 4 5 1
Umbrafer (10:47:19 PM): Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice: 6 5
Umbrafer (10:47:23 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 5
MilesMk1 (10:47:37 PM): "What, no 'everything must go
MilesMk1 (10:47:58 PM): ' sales? We really need to get some home repairs done."
Thematrian1 (10:48:31 PM): (Before this goes any further: the ork lady is not wearing an HD uniform.)
MilesMk1 (10:49:00 PM): (Yeah, I know. I'm acting as if I wanted to buy from her anyway. I don't care if they're stealing this stuff...)
Thematrian1 (10:49:11 PM): (Ok, just checking.)
MilesMk1 (10:49:22 PM): (I suppose I say it in a slightly facetious way.)
Thematrian1 (10:49:45 PM): She looks annoyed. "You and the rest of the city." She brandishes one of those pamphlets
Dragcrell (10:50:06 PM): (we still alive)
Thematrian1 (10:50:18 PM): (Yep)
MilesMk1 (10:50:22 PM): #Get ready to floor it if mention of money turns them greedy...#
Dragcrell (10:50:32 PM): (mmm must ahve froze)
MilesMk1 (10:50:41 PM): "Yeah, but the rest of the city probably can't pay with certified cred."
Thematrian1 (10:50:58 PM): She gives you a big grin. "You'd be surprised."
MilesMk1 (10:51:47 PM): "Not today."
MilesMk1 (10:52:07 PM): #Well, this is going nowhere... Probably looting it for someone with more manpower than we have.#
Thematrian1 (10:52:56 PM): unless there's something else, she walks briskly away
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Umbrafer (10:53:03 PM): #Not much we can do out here… it's your neck, want to risk going in?#
MilesMk1 (10:54:19 PM): #Depends on how many people there are... Your sensors pick up any inside?#
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Umbrafer (10:54:47 PM): Scanning for a general idea of signatures inside:
Umbrafer (10:54:50 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 2 5 1 3 6
Umbrafer (10:54:54 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 3
Thematrian1 (10:55:12 PM): This place is huge, if I didn't mention it already
Thematrian1 (10:55:23 PM): certainly less than 100 people inside
MilesMk1 (10:55:28 PM): Hah.
MilesMk1 (10:55:37 PM): How many people ~ do we see milling outside?
Umbrafer (10:55:43 PM): Yeah, HDs are always huge.
Umbrafer (10:55:52 PM): I think it's a legal requirement.
Thematrian1 (10:56:02 PM): there's no milling, everyone goes right in
Thematrian1 (10:57:33 PM): actions?
Thematrian1 (10:57:44 PM): (just checking to make sure I was still connected)
MilesMk1 (10:57:46 PM): Ok... Well, if Blake had to guess, how many people would he say were loading the trucks? And do any appear armed?
Umbrafer (10:57:49 PM): #Your call.
Dragcrell (10:58:05 PM): *looks around to see if theres any intresting stuff going on on the astral*
Thematrian1 (10:58:09 PM): The trucks are not being loaded, they're just sitting there, hooked into their docks
Thematrian1 (10:58:26 PM): Trickster: not a thing...wait. Roll assensing
Dragcrell (10:58:37 PM): Dragcrell rolled 7 6-sided dice: 2 2 3 3 5 3 3
Dragcrell (10:58:50 PM): *blink* mmm well better then all ones I gues
Thematrian1 (10:58:53 PM): one of the people entering has an unusual aura. Awakened or something
Dragcrell (10:59:43 PM): "mmmmm intresting"
Umbrafer (11:00:08 PM): "What's up?"
MilesMk1 (11:00:12 PM): #Fuck... No, no way to storm the place without knowing remotely how many there are inside. And for all we know, this could be the mob, or something...#
MilesMk1 (11:00:44 PM): #We could rout almost any number of ordinary thugs, but do we really want to have an all-out battle here?#
MilesMk1 (11:00:54 PM): "What, more wasps?"
Umbrafer (11:01:14 PM): #Probably not, but we need those supplies…#
Dragcrell (11:02:15 PM): "no nothing like that tho wounder when they started to hire mages?"
MilesMk1 (11:03:01 PM): "Oh, wonderful."
Dragcrell (11:03:39 PM): "So where to next?"
MilesMk1 (11:04:11 PM): "I have a feeling me might find a smilar scene at the next HD."
MilesMk1 (11:04:27 PM): (we might)
Umbrafer (11:04:42 PM): "Yeah. Or worse.#
Umbrafer (11:04:47 PM): *"
MilesMk1 (11:05:02 PM): "So you think we should try to go for this place?"
Umbrafer (11:05:15 PM): "I think this may have to be it…"
Thematrian1 (11:05:22 PM): One of the orks speaks, for the first time in a long time
Umbrafer (11:05:26 PM): "We should avoid a fight, though."
Thematrian1 (11:05:35 PM): "Send in one of those machine gun drones. Clear the place right out."
Umbrafer (11:05:39 PM): *Holds for Orkspeak*
Thematrian1 (11:05:59 PM): (That was it for orkspeak)
MilesMk1 (11:06:30 PM): "What did you have in mind? Try to hold them up, see if we can cow them into submission?"
Umbrafer (11:06:36 PM): "Thought of that… still could, but it's risky."
Umbrafer (11:06:59 PM): "Right now I can't keep these things clear of bullets like I usally can."
MilesMk1 (11:07:14 PM): "Ah."
Umbrafer (11:07:18 PM): (Speaking of which, I forget how much time 'till the next box of stun. Any idea?)
Umbrafer (11:07:37 PM): Who is coming out of the HD, if anyone?
Thematrian1 (11:07:40 PM): (Um. How much was it to start with?)
Thematrian1 (11:07:44 PM): No one in the last minute
Umbrafer (11:07:47 PM): And if so, what are they carruing?
Umbrafer (11:08:00 PM): (Four boxes as of last checkin)
Thematrian1 (11:08:17 PM): You shed a box on the way over. Roll for the next one
Umbrafer (11:08:41 PM): TN 7:
Umbrafer (11:08:44 PM): Umbrafer rolled 6 6-sided dice: 5 2 3 6 4 3
Umbrafer (11:08:51 PM): One hour. *Weeps*
Thematrian1 (11:09:12 PM): ( ::console:: )
Umbrafer (11:09:44 PM): (That's the problem with becoming accustomed to abnormally favourable rolls)
Thematrian1 (11:10:33 PM): you get your next box off at ten
Thematrian1 (11:10:37 PM): what actions?
Umbrafer (11:11:27 PM): "We could try going in peacefully, but that's a big risk…"
Thematrian1 (11:12:34 PM): well?
Dragcrell (11:12:38 PM): "mmmm anyway to slip in with out being seen?"
MilesMk1 (11:13:03 PM): "They don't seem amenable to peaceful negotiations... Obviously they have a buyer lined up, or expect to get a good offer on it."
MilesMk1 (11:13:23 PM): "What, and carry out a few generators and a dozen power tools?"
MilesMk1 (11:13:39 PM): "I think they'd notice."
Thematrian1 (11:13:48 PM): Ork, sounding puzzled: "Why are you so worried? It's just a mob."
Umbrafer (11:14:02 PM): Any chance I could get an answer on the questions regarding people coming out?
Thematrian1 (11:14:16 PM): The answer was 'no one in the last minute'
MilesMk1 (11:14:20 PM): "They seem a lot better organized than a mob. You sure it's not the mob?"
Thematrian1 (11:14:22 PM): which has now spread to two minutes
Umbrafer (11:14:35 PM): "You know, I haven't seen anyone come out…"
Dragcrell (11:14:47 PM): "Mmmm coudl be or coun't be acutaly if we can see whats going on inside for shoure I think that would help out alot."
Thematrian1 (11:15:01 PM): Ork lady has gone inside
MilesMk1 (11:15:05 PM): "Maybe they're figuring out what to take."
MilesMk1 (11:15:22 PM): "Well, what ways do we have of looking inside?"
Umbrafer (11:15:36 PM): Popping out the Kimji.
Thematrian1 (11:15:49 PM): whiiiiiiiiiiir
Umbrafer (11:15:57 PM): (Can someone slap me until I wake up?)
Dragcrell (11:16:12 PM): (lol)
Thematrian1 (11:16:16 PM): (You're a bit far away)
Umbrafer (11:16:19 PM): Anyway. Flitting up and about the rooftop, looking for ways in.
Umbrafer (11:17:31 PM): The garden center's usually a good source for them.
Umbrafer (11:19:51 PM): *Flit flit flit*
Thematrian1 (11:20:21 PM): Roll sensors, you see no obvious ways in. However
Umbrafer (11:20:28 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 5
Umbrafer (11:20:31 PM): Umbrafer rolled 8 6-sided dice: 3 3 5 6 2 1 2 2
Dragcrell (11:20:33 PM): (arrrrrrrrgggggggg dame Music match is screwign up
Umbrafer (11:20:36 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Thematrian1 (11:22:59 PM): There's a nice set of skylights over the garden section
Umbrafer (11:23:20 PM): Hmm… currently intact and closed, though?
Thematrian1 (11:23:30 PM): yes
Umbrafer (11:24:07 PM): Going to go over to them and look in. What does the place look like?
Thematrian1 (11:26:19 PM): The skylights are looking down on the plants; some of them must be real. Since the ceiling is so high
Thematrian1 (11:26:40 PM): you can also see slightly into the other areas, though the giant shelves complicate that somewhat
Dragcrell (11:28:50 PM): (FINLY god I hate not haveing some music playing drive me NUTS)
Umbrafer (11:28:56 PM): People visible?
Thematrian1 (11:29:12 PM): This section is deserted. You can see one guy, with a gun, at the end of one aisle
Umbrafer (11:30:43 PM): Can I identify the type of gun? (General class, not model)
Thematrian1 (11:30:51 PM): assault rifle
MilesMk1 (11:31:47 PM): (Could it really be worse than that air force base? Probably not, but who knows...)
Umbrafer (11:31:55 PM): #There's a guy with an assault rifle in there… doesn't seem to be using it, though#
Thematrian1 (11:32:11 PM): he's leaning against one shelf, looking down the aisle
Umbrafer (11:32:17 PM): #I'm not sure we have a choice if we want to get those supplies. Question is, do we do this as an assault or negotiation.#
MilesMk1 (11:32:33 PM): #Show of force followed by negotiation?#
Umbrafer (11:34:19 PM): #We could try… usually works better on gangs, though#
MilesMk1 (11:34:27 PM): #The problem with negotiation is that they didn't even seem remotely interested, and there's nothing stopping them from just deciding to shoot me.#
Umbrafer (11:34:33 PM): #This… this is just weird.#
Umbrafer (11:34:41 PM): #Are you sure she was with them?#
MilesMk1 (11:34:53 PM): #Well, she went inside, too.#
Umbrafer (11:36:02 PM): #Yeah, but we still don't have any evidence that these people are working together#
MilesMk1 (11:37:18 PM): #Well, who could she be with? If she wasn't, why did they let her go in unchallenged?#
Umbrafer (11:37:50 PM): #No clue. For all we know they really are doing business in there. As usual, but with armed guards. Not likely, though.#
Umbrafer (11:37:53 PM): Kimji's flitting down towards the doors
Umbrafer (11:38:02 PM): Looking for an opportunity to slip in unobserved
Thematrian1 (11:39:43 PM): Unobserved to the outside is easy
Umbrafer (11:40:11 PM): That part I figured, it's the through-the-doors part I'm worried about.
Umbrafer (11:41:39 PM): If it goes smoothly, I'll head ceilingward and case the joint. If not…
Thematrian1 (11:42:15 PM): well, just now the doors are shut. There's an ork in overalls approaching the doors
Umbrafer (11:43:27 PM): Going to try to slip in behind him. Sticking near the ceiling if there are enough obstacles there to stay hidden, near the floor if not.
Thematrian1 (11:44:19 PM): slipping in behind isn't hard, he doesn't even look behind himself
Thematrian1 (11:44:22 PM): hell
Thematrian1 (11:45:19 PM): Inside, there's an armed ork (or sometimes human) at each aisle, watching the new man closely. One of them beckons to him with one finger.
Thematrian1 (11:45:22 PM): guys, I have to go
MilesMk1 (11:45:53 PM): Getting kicked out of the lab, or just collapsing?
MilesMk1 (11:46:09 PM): Either way, good night, and see you Thursday.
Thematrian1 (11:46:12 PM): neither, something's come up here
Thematrian1 (11:46:15 PM): ok, see you all Thursday
MilesMk1 (11:46:19 PM): Ok.
Dragcrell (11:46:37 PM): ok ^_^
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MilesMk1 (11:47:46 PM): Mhmm. Hope it was nothing too dire. Well, see you Thursday - or give me a PM tomorrow if you get a hold of the PDF, I'm curious to hear just how awful the SR4 rules are. ;)
Umbrafer (11:48:00 PM): Well…
MilesMk1 (11:48:09 PM): ?
Umbrafer (11:48:18 PM): I'm hearing from someone who has seven chapters of a only slightly-prerelease copy
Umbrafer (11:48:24 PM): (He's running the Matrix demo)
Umbrafer (11:48:28 PM): His comments:
Umbrafer (11:49:19 PM): Now, I DO have a progress copy, its not final. But I hope there was a big change between what I have the the print.
Umbrafer (11:49:37 PM): its bad.
Umbrafer (11:49:51 PM): it just feels like D20 with more dice.
Umbrafer (11:50:13 PM): (He's in a rush, so I don't have anything more specific right now, but this isn't sounding good)
MilesMk1 (11:51:54 PM): Mind you, "feels like d20" isn't actually a damning statement for me, per se... Though applied to SR, specifically, it's definitely not what I would want.
Umbrafer (11:53:23 PM): Yeah
Umbrafer (11:54:22 PM): I mean, I can understand liking the system. It's not my cup of tea (AC counts up! WTF? ;) ), but I can see it… well…
Umbrafer (11:54:27 PM): I don't know.
Umbrafer (11:54:53 PM): Rather, I should say that D20 as the D&D system makes a certain amount of sense
Umbrafer (11:55:02 PM): Even to my 2nd-ed-purist mind.
Umbrafer (11:55:12 PM): It's certainly not a good match for SR.
MilesMk1 (11:55:21 PM): I like HP and AC when playing D&D - it's more accurate, really, to say I like D&D (or what I think of as D&D ;)) than d20.
Umbrafer (11:55:31 PM): Yeah
Umbrafer (11:55:43 PM): That's basically the idea that I was trying to get across.
MilesMk1 (11:55:52 PM): I hated every modern setting using the d20 rules aside from Mutants and Masterminds...
Umbrafer (11:55:57 PM): D20 as the neo-GURPS…
MilesMk1 (11:56:31 PM): Which is actually a very nice system. Even uses staged damage and a condition monitor instead of HP.
MilesMk1 (11:57:12 PM): Doesn't use levels, either... It has caps, but everything is point buy.
MilesMk1 (11:59:20 PM): I guess Dumpshock is going to be a complete mess when the rules are widely distributed...
Umbrafer (12:00:19 AM): Yes.
Umbrafer (12:00:23 AM): Yes it is.
Umbrafer (12:01:14 AM): How angry the rules make me will largely decide whether I avoid the place completely for a few days or wade in swinging, probably.
MilesMk1 (12:01:36 AM): I'm thinking of the brawl from "Anchorman" (which was the only good part in that turd of a movie).
Umbrafer (12:01:45 AM): (Never did see it)
MilesMk1 (12:02:52 AM): Imagine a bunch of news anchors having a 5-way fight with all kinds of melee weapons with only one rule - no hitting of the face or hair. Suddenly riders on horses appear and net and drag someone.
MilesMk1 (12:03:01 AM): Then a rider gets hit in the heart with a trident.
Umbrafer (12:03:23 AM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (12:03:44 AM): I swear, this always happens whenever I start thinking that SR4 might be good after all.
Umbrafer (12:03:55 AM): First it was the letter to the freelancers
MilesMk1 (12:03:59 AM): More news comes out?
Umbrafer (12:04:03 AM): Now it was…
Umbrafer (12:04:11 AM): Well, ok, I didn't have an excuse for being optimistic this time
Umbrafer (12:04:20 AM): More accurately, I'd finally forgotten most of what I knew
Umbrafer (12:04:27 AM): But yeah, more news comes out.
Umbrafer (12:05:27 AM): Back to SR3R, I guess… still need to figure out what needs to be done with ranged combat. May have to break my intention and open up Magic before closing off one of our current topics, as Seiler and I had a fairly good brainstorm
Umbrafer (12:05:36 AM): for it but still nothing for Ranged Combat or decking.
MilesMk1 (12:05:57 AM): I actually wouldn't mind an actual brawl... There's at least a couple of people I wouldn't mind getting my hands on...
MilesMk1 (12:06:02 AM): Ah. Cool.
Umbrafer (12:06:21 AM): Anyone in particular, out of interest?
Umbrafer (12:06:31 AM): Blakkie would be my prime target.
Umbrafer (12:06:46 AM): (This is getting edited out of the log, FYI)
Umbrafer (12:07:06 AM): Nerbert is annoying as all hell, but at least seems vaguely well-intentioned.
MilesMk1 (12:07:11 AM): Though I think, in a way, things are harder to come up with for SR3R because the intent is to change as little as possible, while still make improvements.
Umbrafer (12:07:22 AM): It's true.
Umbrafer (12:07:37 AM): Oh, and everyone who posted a "naysayers leave us alone" post. Doubly for threads.
Umbrafer (12:07:52 AM): Sorry, "naysayers leave us true fans alone"
MilesMk1 (12:08:00 AM): Yeah... Nerbert is shrill. Blakkie is just an asshole, with a little crowd of sycophants who think he's actually amusing...
MilesMk1 (12:08:27 AM): He'd actually be my first target, for reasons unrelated to SR4.
Umbrafer (12:08:47 AM): Yeah.
Umbrafer (12:09:23 AM): I mean, there's no one I'd target over their opinions of SR4. Character traits brought to the fore by the SR4 discussion, on the other hand…
Umbrafer (12:10:11 AM): (But I think that was understood already—did you mean not over things he wrote in the SR4 forum?)
MilesMk1 (12:10:43 AM): Yeah... Over the little discussion we had recently on the issue of falling trolls squashing elves. ;)
Umbrafer (12:11:03 AM): Must have missed that one. What happened?
MilesMk1 (12:12:10 AM): It was in the "Stupid Deaths" thread - I have a tendency to jump on things that I see as stupid GM calls in those sort of threads, and he felt the need to chime in...
Umbrafer (12:12:33 AM): (The thread that really got to me was the one where he declared himself to be a "slayer", meaning he was a troll with some twist that I forget that somehow made it supposedly beneficial)
Umbrafer (12:12:45 AM): Heh. Yeah, I stayed away from that thread.
Umbrafer (12:13:21 AM): Sometimes there are interesting things within, but generally the things contained are either 1) not stupid, 2) bad GMing, 3) not interesting, or some combination of those elements.
Umbrafer (12:14:04 AM): Oh god, Solstice is back.
MilesMk1 (12:14:21 AM): One post basically was just "Ooh, look, this is an example of one of the things I quoted MYSELF on in MY quote file - and you're an asshole", the second - after it got this response from me - was to call me
MilesMk1 (12:14:46 AM): names and claim I clearly displayed my inability to compete with him intellectually.
Umbrafer (12:14:54 AM): Heh
Umbrafer (12:15:09 AM): Well, you clearly can't even begin to match him in a race to the bottom.
MilesMk1 (12:15:51 AM): So I replied with "Yeah, I've been told. Your superior intellect forced me to leave you rolling in shit all by yourself." and left.
Umbrafer (12:16:09 AM): Good call.
MilesMk1 (12:16:56 AM): No point in getting into a name-calling match on Dumpshock.
MilesMk1 (12:17:45 AM): But if it ever comes to a wild melee at some future Gencon...
Umbrafer (12:18:10 AM): SotSW will tear the place up ;)
MilesMk1 (12:19:21 AM): Damn right.
MilesMk1 (12:20:06 AM): So, going to wait up to see if the PDF goes on sale tonight? :)
Umbrafer (12:20:28 AM): I was going to, but the person I quoted above smacked me back into reality.
MilesMk1 (12:20:37 AM): Hehe...
Umbrafer (12:20:46 AM): I mean, I'm still going to read it all in haste, as I need to do a review of it
Umbrafer (12:21:07 AM): But unless it's up by the time I finish getting ready for bed I'm not going to wait up for it.
Umbrafer (12:21:58 AM): I'm also trying to figure out what I'm going to say in the review.
Umbrafer (12:23:05 AM): I mean, I don't feel right being unreservedly negative in something hosted by Freelancers, but if it's that bad I'm going to have to
Umbrafer (12:24:17 AM): Argh. This is only our second broadcast, we're not supposed to be dealing with ethical reporting issues yet.
MilesMk1 (12:26:00 AM): Hehe... The podcast, eh?
MilesMk1 (12:26:21 AM): Well, maybe you'll be able to say something nice about the Matrix rules.
MilesMk1 (12:27:14 AM): Oh, goody... Some asshole named Crusher Bob just decided to get snippy with me for pointing out that suggesting someone coat spider drones in ruthenium is not practical because of the cost of scanners.
MilesMk1 (12:27:48 AM): Apparently, you can just steal as many as you need from your local electronics distributor.
Umbrafer (12:28:04 AM): Heh.
Umbrafer (12:28:31 AM): Well, you'd think the sensors in the drone itself would count for something, but you're still correct there
Umbrafer (12:28:38 AM): Well, sorta
Umbrafer (12:28:45 AM): Depends on what you're doing
Umbrafer (12:29:08 AM): If you end up with an essentially undetectable drone and make sure you retrieve it all the time, it can be cost-effective. It's hugely expensive, still.
Umbrafer (12:31:13 AM): Either way, the calm Dumpshock had been experiencing has quite solidly evaporated. Such is the way of the world, I guess.
MilesMk1 (12:31:48 AM): Yep... And it's our solemn duty to add fuel to the fire. :)
MilesMk1 (12:32:15 AM): Well, maybe not, but it will be fun. For about an hour. After which point you'll feel like killing all the posters.
MilesMk1 (12:32:33 AM): Ah... I'm going to turn in.
Umbrafer (12:33:01 AM): Yeah, mee too. Sleep well, and wel'll have a lot to talk about Thursday.
MilesMk1 (12:33:13 AM): Thursday. *wave*
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