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Umbrafer (8:38:07 PM): I'll be fully here in a minute
Thematrian1 (8:38:22 PM): And I'm leaving in a few hours. Frown
MilesMk1 (8:38:25 PM): ?
Thematrian1 (8:38:28 PM): an hour, really
Thematrian1 (8:39:00 PM): yeah
MilesMk1 (8:40:44 PM): Travelling>
MilesMk1 (8:40:46 PM): ?
Thematrian1 (8:40:57 PM): no, just leaving the chat. Sorry
MilesMk1 (8:41:15 PM): *gasp*
Thematrian1 (8:43:17 PM): yeah. We need a suicide strike to the island
Umbrafer (8:43:48 PM): Right, sorry about that.
Umbrafer (8:44:57 PM): When we left of you were… still planning, I think?
Thematrian1 (8:45:29 PM): we had a plan
MilesMk1 (8:45:31 PM): What's up with Dave? Not around, or sitting this one out?
Thematrian1 (8:45:52 PM): I actually did want MacLeod around for this run
Umbrafer (8:45:58 PM): Bugger all.
Umbrafer (8:46:00 PM): Dave had a delay.
Thematrian1 (8:46:12 PM): I have a bad feeling about our odds of getting into combat
Umbrafer (8:46:19 PM): Sorry, didn't notice that at first—was dealing with Shadowcast issues, which ran later than I'd hoped.
Thematrian1 (8:46:20 PM): let's just bitch about SR4
Umbrafer (8:46:25 PM): I'm down with that.
Umbrafer (8:46:40 PM): They got rid of conceal ratings.
Umbrafer (8:46:50 PM): They also finally displaced the AVS as Munchkin's Choice.
MilesMk1 (8:47:01 PM): AVS?
Umbrafer (8:47:07 PM): Ares Viper Slivergun
MilesMk1 (8:47:12 PM): Oh, right. What with?
Umbrafer (8:47:14 PM): It's all about the cherry blossom snowstorm now.
Umbrafer (8:47:19 PM): Yamaha Sakura Fubuki.
Umbrafer (8:47:33 PM): Light Pistol, SA/BF, takes recoil like SA even in BF
Thematrian1 (8:47:36 PM): !
Umbrafer (8:47:42 PM): Can only fire in narrow burst mode
Umbrafer (8:47:45 PM): But wide burst is useless
Thematrian1 (8:48:01 PM): well
Thematrian1 (8:48:11 PM): if you get the guy to abort his first action to evade your narrow burst
Thematrian1 (8:48:19 PM): it's nice to hit him with a wide one on your next simple
Thematrian1 (8:48:31 PM): but yeah
Umbrafer (8:48:53 PM): Conceal ratings have been replaced with a vague "conceal chart"
MilesMk1 (8:49:04 PM): We were briefly talking about the genius of the new dodging system...
Umbrafer (8:49:08 PM): Gone are the differences between items of a class
Thematrian1 (8:49:10 PM): so maybe Rob Boyle did have something to do with equipment after all
Thematrian1 (8:49:21 PM): I liked what I saw at first, but...
Umbrafer (8:49:28 PM): Let me list the conceal levels.
Umbrafer (8:49:30 PM): They're priceless.
Umbrafer (8:49:45 PM): Conceal Modifier
MilesMk1 (8:49:49 PM): Either get hit and take at least some damage, because it's impossible to soak it all, or give up your action, and let the other person shoot at you with impunity...
Umbrafer (8:49:57 PM): -6: RFID tag, bug, slap patch, micro-electronics, micro-drone
Thematrian1 (8:50:02 PM): 'wee', 'not so wee', and 'friggin huge'?
MilesMk1 (8:50:16 PM): (What is that from, BTW? I heard it before, several times.)
Umbrafer (8:50:19 PM): -4: Holdout pistol, monowhip, ammo, credstick, chips/softs, sequencer/passkey
Thematrian1 (8:50:29 PM): (It's SNL, I think. I saw it when I was about 8)
Umbrafer (8:50:39 PM): -2: Light pistol, knife, sap, microgrenade, flash-pak, jammer, minidrone
Umbrafer (8:50:51 PM): +0: Heavy pistol, taser, grenade, goggles, commlink
Umbrafer (8:51:02 PM): +2: Machine pistol (!), medkit, club
Umbrafer (8:51:15 PM): +4: SMG, stun baton (!), sword (!!)
Umbrafer (8:51:24 PM): +6: Assault rifle, katana (!!!)
Umbrafer (8:51:57 PM): (You probably figured out, but the (!)s were editorializing.
MilesMk1 (8:52:01 PM): Are these for opposed tests of some sort, or do they just modify perception? Because it seems like anyone not blind has a decent chance of noticing anything bigger than a RFID tag...
Umbrafer (8:52:02 PM): *)
Thematrian1 (8:52:02 PM): heh
Umbrafer (8:52:07 PM): Opposed.
Umbrafer (8:52:09 PM): Your…
Thematrian1 (8:52:12 PM): Palming
Thematrian1 (8:52:13 PM): and
Thematrian1 (8:52:15 PM): Agility
Umbrafer (8:52:15 PM): Whatever they call slight-of-hand
Umbrafer (8:52:16 PM): Yeah
Umbrafer (8:52:18 PM): That's it
MilesMk1 (8:52:53 PM): ...but who the hell takes palming, and what does it have to do with a concealable holster and a heavy coat?\
Thematrian1 (8:53:04 PM): it's magic
Umbrafer (8:53:10 PM): The answers are everyone and no one knows.
Umbrafer (8:54:07 PM): Dodging system?
Thematrian1 (8:54:14 PM): the whole 'abort to dodge' thing
Umbrafer (8:54:17 PM): Ah, yes.
MilesMk1 (8:54:24 PM): Of course, the description of the run in "Buzzkill" indicates everyone carries an assault rifle on inflitration jobs these days, so maybe subtlety is no longer important.
Umbrafer (8:54:53 PM): The description of the run in Buzzkill also implies that you can hire a team of runners for less than what it takes to maintain a Low lifestyle.
MilesMk1 (8:55:01 PM): Very WoD, that abort ot dodge thing.
Umbrafer (8:55:16 PM): Though it should have been titled "Buzzword"
Thematrian1 (8:55:21 PM): meow
Umbrafer (8:55:26 PM): The entire book should have been.
Umbrafer (8:55:29 PM): Meow?
Thematrian1 (8:55:44 PM): that was a very catty remark
Thematrian1 (8:55:46 PM): so it gets a meow
Umbrafer (8:55:49 PM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (8:55:54 PM): Dave said it best, I think. Someone needs to cancel Rob's slashdot account.
MilesMk1 (8:56:05 PM): Hah.
Thematrian1 (8:56:06 PM): brb food
Umbrafer (8:56:23 PM): (You know it's true.)
Umbrafer (8:58:24 PM): Sadly, rumor has it that the suck has reached its icy claws back to SR3 and System Failure.
Thematrian1 (8:59:57 PM): heh
MilesMk1 (9:00:22 PM): I'm not really up on the metaplot, but what I've read of the events that brought about the new crash (in the threads on it) seemed similar in terms of logic and verisimilitude to most other big events.
Thematrian1 (9:00:48 PM): given all the things they had to get done to set up their new reality, it could have been worse
MilesMk1 (9:00:51 PM): Certainly no stupider than the whole series of events leading to the Great Ghost Dance and the results thereof. ;)
Umbrafer (9:00:58 PM): Heh
MilesMk1 (9:02:15 PM): (Sorry, I like SR, but some of the backstory is just...)
Thematrian1 (9:02:20 PM): so we're not switching then?
Umbrafer (9:03:02 PM): If we find Rob and some stout hickory we can do plenty of switching.
MilesMk1 (9:03:19 PM): I think that's called bludgeoning.
Thematrian1 (9:03:33 PM): it sounds like he wants to punish Rob for being naughty
MilesMk1 (9:03:57 PM): I for one am against bludgeoning to SR4, but for doing same to any number of people on DS or FanPro.
MilesMk1 (9:04:12 PM): or at FanPro.
Thematrian1 (9:04:31 PM): sure
Umbrafer (9:04:34 PM): In retrospect, I should have done it a long time ago
Umbrafer (9:04:46 PM): As far as I can tell SR4 is largely Rob's creative work
Umbrafer (9:05:06 PM): A stitch in time could have saved far more than nine.
Thematrian1 (9:05:09 PM): heh had a fairly nice idea (AR), and he was working on a game
MilesMk1 (9:05:17 PM): I could weep. The SR4's Cover Op's cyber consists or Cybereyes, a reaction enhancer, and a spur.
Thematrian1 (9:05:17 PM): so he put it in, heedless
Umbrafer (9:05:41 PM): Like I said.
MilesMk1 (9:05:56 PM): Well... AR is not exactly his idea, Transhuman Space had it years ago, and I'm sure they stole it from someone too...
Thematrian1 (9:06:00 PM): ph
Umbrafer (9:06:01 PM): In Rob's hosts file: slashdot.org 127.0.0.1
Thematrian1 (9:06:06 PM): nevermind
Umbrafer (9:06:10 PM): (Or is that backwards? I never do remember)
Umbrafer (9:06:21 PM): Ah well.
Umbrafer (9:06:34 PM): I swear, I'll stop being so repetitive and pointlessly vitriolic someday.
MilesMk1 (9:06:50 PM): "Large container of nano-paste disguise."
Thematrian1 (9:07:04 PM): the best antidote to a bad game is a good one. When we've played more SR3, then the rage will fade
MilesMk1 (9:07:36 PM): Monofilament sword? On a starting character?
Umbrafer (9:08:04 PM): There's more than a bad game here. There is the rank scent of trampled dreams.
Umbrafer (9:08:06 PM): But you're right
Umbrafer (9:08:16 PM): I think the antidote is SR3.
Umbrafer (9:09:44 PM): Incidentally, we've decided to go with your idea, Seiler
Thematrian1 (9:09:50 PM): er?
Thematrian1 (9:09:55 PM): oh
Umbrafer (9:09:56 PM): We'll have to nail down a date of broadcast.
MilesMk1 (9:10:47 PM): Bah. Their adept has 11 dice in firearms, and whoever made that didn't even try. Hard. I could strangle all those people running around screaming "No, really! The combat system works! It's not like you can make a viable
MilesMk1 (9:10:54 PM): character with 15+ dice in a skill!"
MilesMk1 (9:11:07 PM): (and that doesn't count smartlink, either)
MilesMk1 (9:11:31 PM): (Sorry, I'm actually just now taking the time to look at some of this.)
Umbrafer (9:12:11 PM): (No problem, feel free to rant. I think we may all need it.)
Umbrafer (9:12:18 PM): (It feels like forever, but it's only been out a few days.)
Thematrian1 (9:12:46 PM): and
Thematrian1 (9:12:50 PM): I tried to make Gem last night
Thematrian1 (9:12:52 PM): no fraggin' way
Thematrian1 (9:12:56 PM): skills are split up too much now
Thematrian1 (9:13:00 PM): maybe that's a feature though
Umbrafer (9:13:16 PM): Someday I'm going to try to build Alex. I think I'll do it when I have some need to feel rage again.
MilesMk1 (9:13:25 PM): I didn't even try to build either of my characters.
Thematrian1 (9:13:27 PM): I don't think you're in need of that just yet
Umbrafer (9:13:35 PM): No, no I'm not.
MilesMk1 (9:13:55 PM): You definitely need to use more than 400 build points to get them to approximate SR3 characters.
Umbrafer (9:14:03 PM): I do have an Otaku I could try buiohwaittheydon'texistanymore.
Thematrian1 (9:14:11 PM): heh
Umbrafer (9:14:33 PM): Incidentally, the data on my hard drive is mocking me, and it's all because of you.
MilesMk1 (9:14:40 PM): Of course, if you use 500 points, you can make a character godlike with those extra 50 points to spend on abilities.
Thematrian1 (9:14:44 PM): right
Thematrian1 (9:14:49 PM): worthless scaling
MilesMk1 (9:14:52 PM): Because of me, or Seiler?
Umbrafer (9:14:59 PM): Seiler.
MilesMk1 (9:15:05 PM): Ah. Yes, of course.
Thematrian1 (9:15:06 PM): uh?
Umbrafer (9:15:13 PM): I have a bright, shiny copy of Universal Brotherhood.
Umbrafer (9:15:21 PM): And I am bound not to touch it.
MilesMk1 (9:15:21 PM): Hehe.
Thematrian1 (9:15:23 PM): :-D
Umbrafer (9:15:27 PM): It mocks me.
Umbrafer (9:15:31 PM): I gaze at the cover.
MilesMk1 (9:15:33 PM): A friend of mine has Bug City.
MilesMk1 (9:15:39 PM): I held it in my hands.
Thematrian1 (9:15:54 PM): isn't it horrible?
Umbrafer (9:15:58 PM): I've got Queen Euphoria, but that's the bugs outside of Chi-town.
MilesMk1 (9:15:58 PM): It's a testament to what a good person I am that I didn't open it.
Thematrian1 (9:16:03 PM): And I appreciate it
Umbrafer (9:16:28 PM): QE has one of the best covers I've seen. The Underworld sourcebook cover was great as well.
MilesMk1 (9:16:29 PM): Well, actually, I *did* open it but just flipped through and looked at a couple of pieces of artwork, didn't read anything.
Thematrian1 (9:16:42 PM): there's some nice artwork toward the middle
Umbrafer (9:17:08 PM): *Splutter*
MilesMk1 (9:17:11 PM): I should ask him to let me look through his SR stuff - he has a small duffel bag of it, some as old as SR1, and no use for it anymore.
Thematrian1 (9:17:19 PM): oooh
Thematrian1 (9:17:22 PM): grab it all
Umbrafer (9:17:25 PM): !!!
Umbrafer (9:17:29 PM): I can understand why they do it for the players
Thematrian1 (9:17:31 PM): there's some solid gold in that period
Umbrafer (9:17:40 PM): But in System Failure, they explain what an IPO is.
Umbrafer (9:17:55 PM): No Runner who would be on Shadowlands to read it would need that.
Umbrafer (9:18:07 PM): Hell, probably half of them have been in a run connected to one.
Thematrian1 (9:18:24 PM): yeah
MilesMk1 (9:18:27 PM): Hehe... I'll try to remember to ask, I'll probably see him this weekend. Don't know if he'll want to keep it for sentimental value or not, though - but I'll try to get my hands on it.
Thematrian1 (9:18:31 PM): yeah
Thematrian1 (9:18:32 PM): well
Thematrian1 (9:18:39 PM): just make sure they don't get thrown out or some damn thing
MilesMk1 (9:18:51 PM): Oh, no worries there.
Thematrian1 (9:18:59 PM): good good
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Umbrafer (9:19:07 PM): j0
CirclMastr (9:19:08 PM): I live
MilesMk1 (9:19:12 PM): He's got some 20 year-old warhammer miniatures he hasn't gotten rid of.
MilesMk1 (9:19:16 PM): So *you* say.
Thematrian1 (9:19:19 PM): (I've got 20 minutes left)
CirclMastr (9:19:23 PM): Eh?
Thematrian1 (9:19:24 PM): (Give or take)
MilesMk1 (9:19:37 PM): (He means to stay here, not to live. I think.)
CirclMastr (9:19:43 PM): Doh
Umbrafer (9:19:45 PM): (To live.)
Thematrian1 (9:19:47 PM): (Right)
Thematrian1 (9:19:56 PM): (Ok, that was ambiguous)
Umbrafer (9:20:01 PM): (He's leaving the chat, but not going anywhere. How many other possibilities are there?)
CirclMastr (9:20:14 PM): (Can I bring up the forum game discussion or are we cramming as much non-action into 20 minutes as possible?)
Umbrafer (9:20:37 PM): (We're cramming as much non-action. Not in-game non-action, however.)
Thematrian1 (9:20:41 PM): (I was going to try and do the run, but 'non-action'? Fuck it)
Thematrian1 (9:21:18 PM): Whatever. Underwater?
Thematrian1 (9:23:09 PM): I summon a spirit, great form, force 3. TN of 3, then of 5, drain TN of 3, focus dice to the great form enhancement
Thematrian1 (9:23:13 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 6 3 5 5 6 5
Thematrian1 (9:23:18 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 9 6-sided dice: 3 3 1 4 2 1 5 1 5
Thematrian1 (9:23:24 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 1 4 3 5 3 6
Thematrian1 (9:23:38 PM): no drain, 6 services, great form success
Thematrian1 (9:23:51 PM): wow, I'm going to feel silly if I'm not connected
CirclMastr (9:24:06 PM): You are
Thematrian1 (9:24:10 PM): good times
CirclMastr (9:24:12 PM): At least, I can see what you're doing
Umbrafer (9:24:18 PM): If you weren't connected how would the dicebot have returned your result?
Thematrian1 (9:24:24 PM): good call
CirclMastr (9:24:27 PM): Magic!
CirclMastr (9:24:33 PM): Augmented Reality!
CirclMastr (9:24:50 PM): It's part of his PAN?
Umbrafer (9:24:56 PM): Magic works. Connection state being irrelevant, let's go. You've got a big-arse spirit.
Umbrafer (9:25:01 PM): Or at least a big form of one.
Umbrafer (9:25:19 PM): No one's really sure if a Force 3 Great Form spirit is larger or not than a Force 4 ordinary spirit.
Thematrian1 (9:25:27 PM): nah, it's pretty wimpy. But it can cross domains, I can summon it in my living room, it can keep us dry underwater
CirclMastr (9:25:33 PM): (Just a quick aside: I'm typing up a SotSW forum post on attempting another play-by-post game, could y'all give it a read when you get a chance?)
Umbrafer (9:25:40 PM): Remind me what kind of spirit?
Thematrian1 (9:26:00 PM): uh. a spirit of the waters; which one is appropriate to the water around council island?
MilesMk1 (9:26:05 PM): (Sure.)
Umbrafer (9:26:08 PM): (And when you do that please ignore all of the threads that I need to get around to deleting.)
Umbrafer (9:26:14 PM): Hm.
Umbrafer (9:26:25 PM): It would really help to know the Seattle geography now. Anyone know?
Thematrian1 (9:26:27 PM): (I saw those, figured they might be worth leaving)
Umbrafer (9:26:29 PM): If not I'll just make a ruling.
MilesMk1 (9:26:36 PM): (Oh, you mean the ones from those nice Russian young women?)
Thematrian1 (9:26:49 PM): (There was some nice conversation in the threads)
Thematrian1 (9:27:44 PM): Sorry, no love from me, Jon
Umbrafer (9:27:52 PM): Well, until someone tells me that no, it's in the middle of the [ocean/river/swamp], it's a Lake Spirit.
Thematrian1 (9:27:57 PM): good enough
Umbrafer (9:28:19 PM): It burbles out as a little waterspout.
Thematrian1 (9:29:00 PM): "I don't need anything yet, but stay where you can hear me."
Umbrafer (9:29:19 PM): *Burble*
Umbrafer (9:29:34 PM): It whips itself into a frenzy, then settles back down.
MilesMk1 (9:30:07 PM): "Does that mean it's unhappy, or something?" (assuming I'm even there)
Thematrian1 (9:30:16 PM): "Just excited."
Thematrian1 (9:30:22 PM): (You are, this is from your safehouse)
Thematrian1 (9:30:30 PM): (30 seconds after the end of the last game)
Umbrafer (9:31:10 PM): It does look vaguely unhappy at its surroundings, though it deals.
Thematrian1 (9:31:37 PM): I keep that to myself
Umbrafer (9:32:53 PM): Time passes.
Thematrian1 (9:33:00 PM): "So, we ready to go or what?"
CirclMastr (9:34:01 PM): "I guess?"
Thematrian1 (9:34:11 PM): "Let's go, then"
MilesMk1 (9:34:39 PM): "All right."
CirclMastr (9:35:15 PM): ( http://www.sotsw.net/sotswforums/viewtopic.php?t=224 )
CirclMastr (9:35:20 PM): (Behold the topic)
Thematrian1 (9:35:28 PM): and just like that, we head to the river
Umbrafer (9:35:37 PM): You go down by the river.
Umbrafer (9:35:59 PM): There's a fair amount of traffic in the area.
Umbrafer (9:36:07 PM): Signs for the festival get more prominent as you get closer.
CirclMastr (9:36:23 PM): (Does Blake still have the balloon?)
Thematrian1 (9:36:26 PM): (Sorta)
MilesMk1 (9:36:31 PM): (Glitch.)
Thematrian1 (9:36:34 PM): (He tried to give it to me, and it melded into him)
Thematrian1 (9:36:37 PM): (Right)
CirclMastr (9:36:41 PM): (.............................)
Thematrian1 (9:36:48 PM): (It's in his aura now. I think)
CirclMastr (9:36:50 PM): (No. Fragging. Comment.)
MilesMk1 (9:36:58 PM): (I don't have it, but I don't feel like I lost it, and Gem said my aura looks a little strange.)
Umbrafer (9:37:24 PM): (You didn't see it meld into him or anything)
MilesMk1 (9:37:25 PM): (Jealous? :p)
CirclMastr (9:37:31 PM): "Think the balloon guy will be back?"
Umbrafer (9:37:35 PM): (He tried to give it to Gem and it wasn't there.)
Thematrian1 (9:37:50 PM): (Yeah, but I'm pretty that's astrally what happened)
MilesMk1 (9:37:53 PM): "I don't know. Probably."
CirclMastr (9:38:13 PM): "Have we figured out if he's friend or foe?"
MilesMk1 (9:38:37 PM): "Unless all he wanted was to give someone a balloon, and he was just running away all the time because he was shy."
Thematrian1 (9:38:43 PM): "If foe, he has enough power to grease us. I've been assuming friend, but it's possible that he's some astral nasty that wants something from us."
MilesMk1 (9:39:19 PM): "No clue, but the balloon had positive effects so far. People in stores gave me stuff for free or half off, traffic got out of my way on the way back..."
Thematrian1 (9:39:29 PM): yeah, is the traffic thing still happening?
MilesMk1 (9:39:51 PM): "Unless I just hallucinated that, or something. Remind me to check how much money I really spent."
CirclMastr (9:39:52 PM): "You bought lotto tickets, right?"
Umbrafer (9:39:55 PM): Perception.
Thematrian1 (9:40:01 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 4 3 5 6 3 6
MilesMk1 (9:40:03 PM): "Yeah."
Thematrian1 (9:40:06 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 4
CirclMastr (9:40:07 PM): "Good man."
MilesMk1 (9:40:20 PM): (Though I don't think the GM will let me win millions, for some reason.)
Thematrian1 (9:40:34 PM): 11 10 5 4 3 3
Thematrian1 (9:40:46 PM): (and that's it for me. Sorry guys)
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Umbrafer (9:41:02 PM): Ah well.
CirclMastr (9:41:03 PM): Ah well. Now I can bug you two about a play-by-post game.
CirclMastr (9:42:00 PM): http://www.sotsw.net/sotswforums/viewtopic.php?t=224
CirclMastr (9:42:06 PM): *Bug bug*
CirclMastr (9:43:30 PM): Any comment/questions/demands that I shut up?
MilesMk1 (9:43:33 PM): Very Monopoly-oriented.
Umbrafer (9:43:41 PM): Bug city.
CirclMastr (9:43:45 PM): Yeah, well, I couldn't come up with anything else that works.
MilesMk1 (9:43:47 PM): Is there anything we can play with more... killing?
MilesMk1 (9:44:06 PM): ;)
CirclMastr (9:44:15 PM): Well, games with killing are either 1. unfamiliar to me, or 2. hard to do PBP
MilesMk1 (9:44:39 PM): Aw...
CirclMastr (9:44:43 PM): Technically Solarquest has killing.
MilesMk1 (9:44:47 PM): Hehe.
CirclMastr (9:45:05 PM): A player can be stranded in space with no fuel and no one willing to sell him fuel.
MilesMk1 (9:45:30 PM): "Sell me fuel or I'll kill your character!"
Umbrafer (9:45:40 PM): :D
Umbrafer (9:45:50 PM): Killing… killing…
MilesMk1 (9:45:56 PM): Of course, the GMs have an unfair advantage there.
MilesMk1 (9:46:02 PM): I was only half-serious.
CirclMastr (9:46:12 PM): There's Luftwaffe, the game of killing Brits, but it'd be impossible to do PBP.
MilesMk1 (9:46:20 PM): I don't recall any board games involving slaughter...
MilesMk1 (9:46:36 PM): I wish we could play something like... I dunno, Crimson skies.
MilesMk1 (9:46:47 PM): Just wishful thinking, I know.
CirclMastr (9:46:49 PM): (Luftwaffe, despite the name, is actually about Allied bombings of Germany, but Germany usually wins)
Umbrafer (9:47:08 PM): We could always get a Marathon netgame going or something
MilesMk1 (9:47:15 PM): (That's... A flaw in the game system, somewhere.)
CirclMastr (9:47:17 PM): I'm highly skeptical of that working for me.
MilesMk1 (9:47:24 PM): Marathon netgame?
CirclMastr (9:47:34 PM): 1. I'm presently on a PC.
CirclMastr (9:47:39 PM): 2. My firewall is pretty stingy.
CirclMastr (9:48:20 PM): We could play Doom: the Roguelike as PBP, but it'd be incredibly, incredibly slow for a long time.
Umbrafer (9:48:21 PM): 2 is the only issue.
Umbrafer (9:48:34 PM): Aleph One-fu is strong.
Umbrafer (9:48:45 PM): (We'd probably have to go with Marathon 2 or Marathon Infinity, but still)
CirclMastr (9:48:54 PM): "I move East." "Okay, you move one step East. You're now 27 steps away from Jon." "What's the range of my pistol again?" "Eight."
Umbrafer (9:49:18 PM): Marathon is an ancient first-person shooter. Where by "ancient" I mean "1994"
Umbrafer (9:49:27 PM): I actually have a copy of the Doom board game
CirclMastr (9:49:31 PM): ....
CirclMastr (9:49:35 PM): *Sprinkles holy water*
Umbrafer (9:49:42 PM): But I don't think we could really do that without… hey, why?
CirclMastr (9:49:59 PM): The Doom board game sucked almost as bad as the Doom comic.
MilesMk1 (9:50:05 PM): Hehe.
MilesMk1 (9:50:18 PM): I have a friend who got a job writing the Halo comic.
CirclMastr (9:50:37 PM): I should kill him.
MilesMk1 (9:50:46 PM): Don't know whether it's any good, but it sounded like a good gig.
CirclMastr (9:50:50 PM): And I just realized the game cabinets have been painted so I can't look at what else I have.
MilesMk1 (9:51:03 PM): Are they... drying?
Umbrafer (9:51:06 PM): The Doom comic rocked.
CirclMastr (9:51:15 PM): Yes, but it takes several hours.
MilesMk1 (9:51:20 PM): Ah.
Umbrafer (9:51:21 PM): "You are huge! That means you have huge guts!"
Umbrafer (9:51:27 PM): And the Doom board game looks neat.
Umbrafer (9:51:30 PM): Hero Quest-ish.
Umbrafer (9:51:37 PM): Haven't had a chance to actually play yet.
CirclMastr (9:51:41 PM): There's Ubi, the trivia game where even the questions are unknown.
MilesMk1 (9:51:48 PM): Heh.
MilesMk1 (9:52:25 PM): I do not actually own any board games.
MilesMk1 (9:52:39 PM): Well... no. I don't think Blood Bowl qualifies as one.
CirclMastr (9:52:46 PM): I've got the Star Wars and regular versions of Life, if that helps.
Umbrafer (9:52:48 PM): But yeah, if anyone wants the Marathon games, http://trilogyrelease.bungie.org/ and http://source.bungie.org/ have the hookup.
MilesMk1 (9:53:02 PM): God, I wish someone would make an updated version of a computer game based on Blood Bowl.
MilesMk1 (9:53:06 PM): So much fun...
Umbrafer (9:53:10 PM): Do tell?
CirclMastr (9:53:35 PM): That sounds really familiar...
Umbrafer (9:53:36 PM): (There's just something neat about duels that end up with a -6 to -8 win)
MilesMk1 (9:54:14 PM): (Duels? -6 to -8 win?)
CirclMastr (9:54:16 PM): I've got Knightmare Chess, if anyone wants to play an incredibly random version of chess.
Umbrafer (9:54:24 PM): Knightmare Chess!
MilesMk1 (9:54:25 PM): You guys don't know about Blood Bowl?
Umbrafer (9:54:26 PM): Love that game so much.
CirclMastr (9:54:36 PM): Seriously?
Umbrafer (9:54:37 PM): I'm looking for my copy of the first edition.
CirclMastr (9:54:41 PM): I can never find anyone to play with.
CirclMastr (9:54:50 PM): I demand that we play Knightmare Chess, J.
Umbrafer (9:54:53 PM): I've got the Knightmare Chess 2 deck handy, though.
Umbrafer (9:55:01 PM): What's really neat:
CirclMastr (9:55:06 PM): Figures. I have Knightmare Chess 1 and not 2, heh
Umbrafer (9:55:09 PM): Chess-4 combined with Knightmare Chess.
Umbrafer (9:55:12 PM): They're compatible
Umbrafer (9:55:21 PM): The first deck is somewhat more powerful, though
Umbrafer (9:55:27 PM): I have both, but can't find the first.
CirclMastr (9:55:28 PM): I don't know what Chess-4 is
MilesMk1 (9:55:37 PM): That sounds like it could be... interesting.
CirclMastr (9:55:40 PM): I know they're compatible, but I have no knowledge of the Chess 2 cards.
Umbrafer (9:55:50 PM): Chess-4 is a four-player variant. You take an ordinary chess board, then tack half a chess board on each edge.
Umbrafer (9:55:58 PM): Set up a full set of pieces at each end, then play.
CirclMastr (9:56:11 PM): ....
Umbrafer (9:56:44 PM): As you can probably guess, promotion is rarer.
CirclMastr (9:56:52 PM): Yeah
CirclMastr (9:57:14 PM): So Jon, I demand Knightmare Chess play.
MilesMk1 (9:57:19 PM): Blood Bowl, BTW, is a (roughly speaking) football game using the races from the Warhammer fantasy universe for teams. All your players have stats that improve if they survive games.
CirclMastr (9:57:39 PM): I did a search for Blood Bowl, but HotU is being hella slow, even for HotU
Umbrafer (9:57:54 PM): How would we play Knightmare Chess?
Umbrafer (9:58:02 PM): Too many card collision opportunities.
CirclMastr (9:58:17 PM): Eh?
Umbrafer (9:58:46 PM): As in, unless some third party held the deck there's too much chance for us to be holding the same card. Remember, there are some unique cards.
CirclMastr (9:58:50 PM): We play the same as normal chess, but with the Knightmare Chess decks. And honor system against cheating.
CirclMastr (9:59:08 PM): The cards between set 1 and set 2 suplicate?
CirclMastr (9:59:11 PM): *duplicate
Umbrafer (9:59:19 PM): No, you're right. Never mind.
Umbrafer (9:59:26 PM): Yeah, I'm up for a game.
Umbrafer (9:59:29 PM): 150 points?
CirclMastr (9:59:32 PM): Sweetness
CirclMastr (9:59:51 PM): Um, I'd have to actually make a deck out of the cards then, heh
Umbrafer (9:59:56 PM): Actually, we could have a game of Chess-4 if we can… no, no one else has the board and that's the sort of thing you need to be able to see.
CirclMastr (10:00:42 PM): Okay, 150 points... *Digs through card*
Umbrafer (10:01:16 PM): *Digs for deck, sets up board*
MilesMk1 (10:01:35 PM): Mhmm... I guess I'll let you guys play, then?
Umbrafer (10:01:42 PM): You know, we should ahve a game of SR4 sometime.
Umbrafer (10:01:49 PM): Maybe April.
CirclMastr (10:01:53 PM): No.
Umbrafer (10:01:58 PM): As a joke session.
MilesMk1 (10:02:17 PM): You know everyone would come in with the most horribly broken character...
Umbrafer (10:02:22 PM): We'd have to wait a long time, until it became funny instead of enraging.
Umbrafer (10:02:26 PM): Oh, yes.
MilesMk1 (10:02:28 PM): I'd come in as Mr.24.
Umbrafer (10:02:32 PM): That's half the fun.
MilesMk1 (10:02:38 PM): Or as close as I could come to that. :)
MilesMk1 (10:03:07 PM): (I think I helped created a new DS meme, there, actually. I think it ended up getting picked up.)
Umbrafer (10:03:16 PM): ?
MilesMk1 (10:03:20 PM): (Or was it someone else who started using it first...)
Umbrafer (10:03:23 PM): Oh, that was you? Good going :)
MilesMk1 (10:03:25 PM): Mr. 24.
Umbrafer (10:03:29 PM): Well, if it was you good going.
CirclMastr (10:03:36 PM): I know it not.
CirclMastr (10:04:04 PM): brb
Umbrafer (10:04:12 PM): You aren't up there with Dikoted Ally Spirit Sex, but starting a Dumpshock meme is impressive.
Umbrafer (10:04:40 PM): I sorta managed to do it with SR3R, but that was the FAE of memes—no finesse.
Umbrafer (10:05:02 PM): It pleases me, though, that talk of SR3.5 has become rare.
CirclMastr (10:05:49 PM): back
Umbrafer (10:05:56 PM): Wb
Umbrafer (10:07:17 PM): Black or white?
Umbrafer (10:07:27 PM): That's what I need to do.
CirclMastr (10:07:35 PM): I have like, 4 cards picked so far, heh
Umbrafer (10:07:43 PM): For the good of all mankind, I need to convert Juggernauts to SR4.
MilesMk1 (10:08:49 PM): Hehe... Score! I did a search, and it really was me. ;)
Umbrafer (10:08:57 PM): :D
MilesMk1 (10:10:10 PM): (Mr.24 is a hypothetical SR4 character with 24 dice to roll in some firearm of choice, but it seems to have been picked up - maybe - as a code word for broken SR4 characters.)
Umbrafer (10:11:44 PM): (Any character to roll 24 dice in something, I think)
Umbrafer (10:11:59 PM): (Before unusual modifiers)
CirclMastr (10:12:17 PM): Abduction would be fun if it worked online
Umbrafer (10:12:25 PM): ?
CirclMastr (10:13:52 PM): Opponent looks away from the board, and you take a piece (except the king) off the board. He has ten seconds to look at the board and determine which piece was missing. If he fails, the piece is captured.
Umbrafer (10:14:06 PM): Oh, yeah
Umbrafer (10:14:15 PM): I remember that one
Umbrafer (10:14:19 PM): Very fun.
Umbrafer (10:14:46 PM): I once nailed someone's knight with it. It's tough to get rooks or queens with it, though.
MilesMk1 (10:17:47 PM): All right - I'm off. See you guys next week. *waves*
CirclMastr (10:17:56 PM): Later
Umbrafer (10:18:01 PM): *Waves* Take care.
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Umbrafer (10:18:12 PM): Let's roll dice for white/black, then move this to IM
Umbrafer (10:18:20 PM): (So I don't need another client open)
Umbrafer (10:18:37 PM): Pick a number, 1 or 2.
CirclMastr (10:18:40 PM): 2
CirclMastr (10:18:45 PM): I'm still making my deck, heh
Umbrafer (10:18:50 PM): As am I
Umbrafer (10:18:53 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 2-sided die: 2
Umbrafer (10:18:58 PM): Ok, you pick.
CirclMastr (10:19:01 PM): White
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