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MilesMk1 (8:35:00 PM): Hello.
Gedeon Ogoun (8:35:19 PM): hello
Umbrafer (8:35:28 PM): There we go
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Umbrafer (8:35:38 PM): Sun Microsystems has released its death-grip on our last player
CirclMastr (8:35:42 PM): *Destroys the One Ring*
Umbrafer (8:35:51 PM): Maybe not Sun, then
Umbrafer (8:36:25 PM): In any event. We have here before us a choice.
Thematrian1 (8:36:35 PM): woo?
CirclMastr (8:36:41 PM): Choices are bad.
CirclMastr (8:36:58 PM): We'll spend two hours debating and them noncommitally "choose" an option.
CirclMastr (8:37:09 PM): And then debate for an hour while we're supposed to be enacting the choice.
Umbrafer (8:37:34 PM): We've got a new player. It's your choice if you want him to have been a part of the backup team your fixer scraped together, or if you want to just wait and introduce him in a more leisurely manner.
MilesMk1 (8:37:47 PM): Right, then. Let's be quick about it. I'll go get a cement truck while Gem goes after the surgical saw.
Gedeon Ogoun (8:38:09 PM): *twidles thumbs*
CirclMastr (8:38:26 PM): He's casting a spell! *Cuts off his thumbs*
Thematrian1 (8:38:28 PM): lay it on us, Jon
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MilesMk1 (8:39:05 PM): I'm fine with him coming in sooner rather than later. Even though every greedy fiber in my body is screaming "No!"
Umbrafer (8:39:15 PM): Hehehe
Thematrian1 (8:39:20 PM): sure, let's bring him in
Gedeon Ogoun (8:39:23 PM): I don't need money if you have women
Thematrian1 (8:39:27 PM): we're getting bags of cash anyway
Umbrafer (8:39:39 PM): And you'd only need to share the second half
Thematrian1 (8:39:42 PM): I'm not touching that one, guys
Gedeon Ogoun (8:40:06 PM): will there be dead bodies?
MilesMk1 (8:40:17 PM): ... not if we can help it.
CirclMastr (8:40:20 PM): That depends on how much ware you have.
MilesMk1 (8:40:59 PM): We've been on an extended stealth-related job, much to the dismay of the walking chainsaw here. ^
Gedeon Ogoun (8:41:05 PM): okay...all joking aside, what's my cut and what's to be done.
CirclMastr (8:41:44 PM): We never remember what we're offerred for runs.
Thematrian1 (8:41:47 PM): We're breaking into/onto council island
Thematrian1 (8:41:50 PM): that's what logs are for
CirclMastr (8:41:56 PM): Our plan had something to do with pretending to be tourists or something.
MilesMk1 (8:42:18 PM): We're breaking into a hotel on the Council Island during a festival of some sort, and planting some bugs and software in someone's computer.
Umbrafer (8:42:25 PM): Then a brief semi-rewind. Gedeon, you got a call from Darcy saying that someone she owes a favour to needs help quick, job's an easy B&E, they've already got a team but may need backup, details at the meet.
Umbrafer (8:42:58 PM): It's your choice if we want to roleplay the full meet, the basic idea is that Gedeon's at the park when you show up.
Gedeon Ogoun (8:43:00 PM): Okay...I jump in the jackrabbit and floor it (45 mph!)
Umbrafer (8:43:07 PM): *Vroom!*
Umbrafer (8:43:10 PM): *Sputter sputter*
Umbrafer (8:43:12 PM): *Crunch*
Umbrafer (8:43:14 PM): *Vroom*
Umbrafer (8:43:24 PM): *Whirwhirwhirwhirclunk*
Gedeon Ogoun (8:43:35 PM): *ignores fallen parts of car*
Gedeon Ogoun (8:43:59 PM): So...what's my cut?
Umbrafer (8:44:32 PM): (Cue the rustling of everyone looking that up)
Umbrafer (8:44:36 PM): (Some things never change)
Thematrian1 (8:44:43 PM): Meanwhile
Thematrian1 (8:45:04 PM): the plan as I remember it was to walk underwater to council island, emerge on the beach looking like swimmers
Gedeon Ogoun (8:45:15 PM): What time of year is it?
MilesMk1 (8:45:28 PM): Walk, swim... Be propelled by a water spirit.
Umbrafer (8:45:36 PM): Mid-July.
MilesMk1 (8:45:39 PM): Or is that only for breathing?
Thematrian1 (8:46:05 PM): The water spirit is for breathing. I could conjure up another Great for movement, if you really crave the personal submarine feeling
Gedeon Ogoun (8:46:16 PM): I may help with conjuring
Gedeon Ogoun (8:46:25 PM): concealment?
Thematrian1 (8:46:27 PM): yeah, but I haven't met you yet
Thematrian1 (8:46:30 PM): sounds handy
MilesMk1 (8:46:41 PM): It's more of an issue of distance that I was worried about, than convenience.
MilesMk1 (8:46:59 PM): Wouldn't do to get there slightly hypothermic and gasping from exhaustion.
Gedeon Ogoun (8:47:02 PM): *waiting in park to meet his shadowrunner pals*
Umbrafer (8:47:28 PM): The pay for this run was an additional ¥75k
Thematrian1 (8:47:37 PM): Ok, that's fair. I'll haul up another Great when we get there
Umbrafer (8:47:59 PM): He can go to ¥80k with the four of you here
Thematrian1 (8:48:05 PM): which divides evenly by 3, but not by 4. Do...oh. Ok then.
Umbrafer (8:48:37 PM): You wait in the park. Eventually a trio of folk head towards you and the fixer. Self-description time.
Thematrian1 (8:49:43 PM): Gem: a tall woman, perhaps 30, with black hair and a long, loose white coat.
Thematrian1 (8:49:49 PM): (Do we know this guy?)
Gedeon Ogoun (8:49:56 PM): (Gedeon is six foot two, dressed in a t-shirt and ripped jeans. He has a shaven head and black skin. The most noticable thing about him is the charms/jewelry all over him.)
Umbrafer (8:50:18 PM): There's a guy you don't know with the fixer.
Thematrian1 (8:50:22 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 1 1 6 3 4 6
Gedeon Ogoun (8:50:43 PM): Perception: //roll-dice8
Gedeon Ogoun (8:50:46 PM): oops.
Thematrian1 (8:50:58 PM): Gem looks him over, and cocks an eyebrow at the fixer.
Umbrafer (8:51:19 PM): Need to put the dierolls on lines by themselves
CirclMastr (8:51:42 PM): *Is a preteen human male with a longcoat (that fits) and normal looking clothes under that, and no apparent 'ware*
MilesMk1 (8:52:10 PM): Oops... Sorry, missed the call for descriptions...
Thematrian1 (8:53:36 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 8 6-sided dice: 2 1 3 2 3 4 1 1
MilesMk1 (8:53:39 PM): (Glitch is an asian male in his late 20's, looks like a gymnast, well but casually dressed, obvious jade-green cybereyes.)
MilesMk1 (8:53:48 PM): (5'1" in boots)
Thematrian1 (8:53:51 PM): (For until I find the Gaim preference, though maybe you don't want me to roll for you after that disaster)
Umbrafer (8:54:16 PM): I'll roll it. (Watch me rule-of-1)
Umbrafer (8:54:20 PM): Umbrafer rolled 8 6-sided dice: 4 2 6 1 5 6 5 2
Umbrafer (8:54:23 PM): Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 2
Gedeon Ogoun (8:54:49 PM): much better
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Umbrafer (8:56:14 PM): As before, the fixer looks overjoyed to see you three.
Thematrian1 (8:56:18 PM): (In my version of Gaim, it's Tools>Preferences>Conversation)
Thematrian1 (8:56:31 PM): (Then 'forward unknown slash commands as text', or some such)
Gedeon Ogoun (8:56:58 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 8 6-sided dice: 3 6 4 1 1 4 3 2
Gedeon Ogoun (8:57:06 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 1 6-sided die: 1
Gedeon Ogoun (8:57:11 PM): thanks
MilesMk1 (8:57:39 PM): (Oh, and a datajack behind his right ear with a cable from it disappearing into the collar of his coat)
CirclMastr (8:58:10 PM): (Are we all meeting each other now?)
MilesMk1 (8:58:48 PM): (I think we three already know each other.)
Gedeon Ogoun (8:58:48 PM): Bonjour (Gedeon speaks with a thick creole accent)
Gedeon Ogoun (8:59:07 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 8 6-sided dice: 4 4 2 4 2 1 3 4
Gedeon Ogoun (8:59:15 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 4 6-sided dice: 6 4 5 2
Gedeon Ogoun (8:59:25 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 1 6-sided die: 3
MilesMk1 (8:59:28 PM): "Hello." *small nod*
Thematrian1 (8:59:57 PM): Gem smiles at him.
MilesMk1 (8:59:57 PM): *turns to the fixer* "Hi, Conroy."
MilesMk1 (9:00:14 PM): *looks back to Gedeon*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:00:23 PM): My name is Gedeon
CirclMastr (9:00:26 PM): *quirks an eyebrow at the stranger's jewelry*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:00:35 PM): *extends hand to shake anyone*
MilesMk1 (9:00:47 PM): (BTW, we usually use "" for spoken dialogue, saves on confusion)
MilesMk1 (9:01:05 PM): (## is for radio or transduced communication)
Gedeon Ogoun (9:01:08 PM): *left wrist has what looks to be a bone sticking through it*
Thematrian1 (9:01:22 PM): ::claims Gedeon's hand::
MilesMk1 (9:01:48 PM): *shakes his hand as well* "I'm Glitch."
CirclMastr (9:01:51 PM): "You young people and your self-mutilation..."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:02:13 PM): "young?"
MilesMk1 (9:02:45 PM): "Take his word for it, it's easier that way."
CirclMastr (9:02:46 PM): "Well aren't you?"
Thematrian1 (9:02:54 PM): ::over his hand:: "I'm Gem"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:02:59 PM): *looks kid up and down* what was your name?
CirclMastr (9:03:13 PM): "MacLeod."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:03:20 PM): "you should eat more iron"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:03:26 PM): "spinach good, meat good"
CirclMastr (9:03:40 PM): "Oh, you shoulda seen the serving I got earlier..."
Umbrafer (9:03:49 PM): (That was steel, not iron)
CirclMastr (9:04:11 PM): (Quit yer babbling, young'un, and let me make my joke!)
Gedeon Ogoun (9:04:28 PM): *to MacLeod* "I will call you Baka"
CirclMastr (9:04:43 PM): "Try it and I'll cut you like a fish."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:04:58 PM): *turns head in puzzlement*
CirclMastr (9:04:59 PM): *draws a near-six-foot katana from under his coat*
Umbrafer (9:05:05 PM): Erm…
Gedeon Ogoun (9:05:07 PM): *smiles*
CirclMastr (9:05:07 PM): "Got it?"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:05:29 PM): "For someone so old, you seem to have not yet learned your manners"
Thematrian1 (9:05:33 PM): "Stop that, both of you."
MilesMk1 (9:05:39 PM): *turns to Gem* "Well, that went better than expected."
Thematrian1 (9:05:45 PM): ::chuckles::
Umbrafer (9:05:47 PM): (It's probably a little shorter than that, but it's still bizarrely large for the coat it came out of)
Umbrafer (9:05:59 PM): The Fixer looks like his day is in serious danger of being ruined all over again.
Gedeon Ogoun (9:06:04 PM): *examines sword*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:06:09 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 8 6-sided dice: 3 2 5 4 5 1 5 2
Gedeon Ogoun (9:06:18 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 4 6-sided dice: 4 4 5 3
Thematrian1 (9:06:25 PM): "Don't worry about it, Conroy." (unless that wasn't his name, in which case substitute his real name 'cause Gem is slick like that)
MilesMk1 (9:07:03 PM): (Well, he's my contact, so whatever I call him would be his real name... But it's been that last session too. ;) )
Gedeon Ogoun (9:07:16 PM): "was I brought here to be killed? I would have prefered someone a little more...spiritual"
Umbrafer (9:07:39 PM): "No! No, not at all…"
Umbrafer (9:08:06 PM): The fixer shakes a few aspirin out of a bottle, swallows them nervously
Gedeon Ogoun (9:08:10 PM): "I do not take kindly to threats from strangers"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:08:24 PM): "The great spirits do not abide this behavior"
CirclMastr (9:08:25 PM): "Then you should act a little more kindly yourself."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:09:03 PM): "I was attempting to grant you a nickname. And you draw a blade??!!?" *voice is getting more angry*
Umbrafer (9:09:14 PM): Conroy moves over to Glitch and Gem
Gedeon Ogoun (9:09:38 PM): *points finger at boy* "Try it. I dare you"
Umbrafer (9:09:41 PM): "Can I at least count on you?"
CirclMastr (9:09:44 PM): "Who the fuck said you could 'grant' anyone a nickname? You can go to hell for all I care."
Umbrafer (9:09:57 PM): "I thought you worked with professionals."
Thematrian1 (9:10:06 PM): "We're fine. They'll be fine too."
Thematrian1 (9:10:15 PM): That last is as much to MacLeod's address as Conroy's.
Gedeon Ogoun (9:10:16 PM): *staring at boy*
CirclMastr (9:10:34 PM): "You going to put that finger down or shall I cut it off?"
MilesMk1 (9:10:42 PM): "Should I go and put up some flyers, in case we're being too subtle here?"
Umbrafer (9:11:14 PM): "Both of you knock this off. The cop over there thinks I run a legit operation."
Thematrian1 (9:11:15 PM): "I prefer a brass band, for things like this."
Umbrafer (9:11:37 PM): "Now if you'll put that god-damned sword away before he figures out it's real…"
CirclMastr (9:11:54 PM): *glances over at the fixer, and sheathes the sword*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:12:10 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 6 6-sided dice: 4 5 4 3 5 6
Thematrian1 (9:12:11 PM): "Yes, please. And Gedeon, you don't do disingenuous well. Drop it if you want to work with us."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:12:47 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 12 6-sided dice: 6 6 5 1 4 3 6 6 3 5 4 2
MilesMk1 (9:13:20 PM): *pretends to laugh and punch Macleod on the shoulder for the benefit of the cop*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:13:46 PM): "I am a professional, a warrior. Blades being drawn? This is bad."
Umbrafer (9:13:47 PM): Plainclothes cop: *tries to ignore the burning sensation in his foot*
CirclMastr (9:14:10 PM): *responds with a sarcastically fake chuckle and punch in return*
CirclMastr (9:14:52 PM): "If it's so bad, walk away."
Thematrian1 (9:15:10 PM): "Good for you. We have until sunset, so let's go commit crimes."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:15:36 PM): *looks to fixer* "Is this the way it ends?"
Umbrafer (9:16:28 PM): Fixer: *Breathes for a few seconds* "The pay's good, it's a rush job. I know he" *stabs a finger at Glitch* "is solid."
MilesMk1 (9:16:53 PM): *quietly * "Macleod... I'd appreciate it if you stopped fucking up business for me because you've had a bad day."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:16:59 PM): Gedeon Ogoun rolled 10 6-sided dice: 4 4 6 4 4 2 5 3 2 4
Umbrafer (9:17:00 PM): "But if you" *glancing over at the quarrel* "aren't going to take the job, please leave and let me get down to business."
CirclMastr (9:17:39 PM): *mutters in Glitch's general direction* "I'm too old to take shit from guys like him..."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:18:13 PM): "The omens are bad from that one" *points to kid*. To fixer: "what is my cut?"
CirclMastr (9:18:25 PM): "Tell me something I don't know."
Umbrafer (9:18:41 PM): "I can pay eighty for the job. How you split it is up to you, I just need this done."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:19:37 PM): "Bondje, bondje"
MilesMk1 (9:20:13 PM): "Sounds good to me." *looks at Gedeon* "Excuse me?"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:20:17 PM): *to Glitch and Gem* "Do you have a bond with this whelp? Excuse my english, if this term offends"
Thematrian1 (9:20:45 PM): "It does. And we do."
CirclMastr (9:21:02 PM): *urge to kill... rising...*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:21:24 PM): "I need to work with a team that functions as a team"
Umbrafer (9:21:40 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 4 5 6 3 3
Umbrafer (9:21:44 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 1
Gedeon Ogoun (9:21:59 PM): "I cannot be dealing with such irresponsible behavior, nor do I understand how or why you put up with it yourself"
Thematrian1 (9:22:08 PM): "Then it is your duty to help, rather than hinder."
MilesMk1 (9:22:47 PM): "Do you always make a point of provoking strangers? We're not in the mood for tests or games."
Umbrafer (9:23:22 PM): The Fixer looks like he's wishing he'd chosen a different profession.
Gedeon Ogoun (9:23:25 PM): "He he...I can help...or I can hurt. These are both sides of the cosmos. I did not intend any manner of disrespect. Where I come from, the granting of nicknames is an honor. It is how friendship is shown."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:23:57 PM): "To blatantly draw a blade on someone from a different culture shows a great level of immaturity."
Thematrian1 (9:24:05 PM): "Perhaps it's a cultural thing."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:24:40 PM): "As far as provoking goes...I would nary draw a blade on a stranger than I would pluck out my own eye."
Thematrian1 (9:25:26 PM): ::eyes Gedeon. Eyes the physically-empty space beside Gedeon::
Gedeon Ogoun (9:26:08 PM): *to MacLeod* "I was interested in your aura, as it is strange to me. I do not understand why you took it so badly. Perhaps you could explain? Do people usually treat you badly due to your age?"
CirclMastr (9:26:58 PM): "You have no idea who or what I am, and you have done nothing to earn an explanation."
Thematrian1 (9:27:06 PM): "Everyone."
Thematrian1 (9:27:17 PM): "We can continue this discussion in private."
Gedeon Ogoun (9:27:34 PM): "So you believe you have the right to say strange things, and expect no one to be interested? How might I earn the right of explanation?"
Umbrafer (9:28:07 PM): *To Glitch, quietly* "You're sure they'll actually get this done? I'll still pay you for the other job if I need to find someone else."
MilesMk1 (9:28:27 PM): "More to the point, Gem and I can probably do this thing alone, even though we'd prefer to have backup - so make up your mind whether you plan on standing here making me look bad, or get your shit together."
MilesMk1 (9:29:24 PM): *quietly, back* "Like I said, if need be, the two of us... I have no clue what is wrong with both of them"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:29:47 PM): "You young people and your self-mutilation"..."is this a way to greet a potential friend?"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:30:07 PM): "Your friends shook my hand. Why were you so hostile from the start?"
Thematrian1 (9:30:41 PM): I head for Glitch's car, and beckon him to follow. These two can keep fighting in public if they want.
MilesMk1 (9:30:58 PM): *beckon to Conroy, head for the car*
Umbrafer (9:31:06 PM): Conroy follows along.
CirclMastr (9:32:23 PM): (arg, brb, dinner)
CirclMastr (9:33:17 PM): (Back)
Umbrafer (9:33:35 PM): (Did you even chew?!?)
Umbrafer (9:33:39 PM): ( ;) )
CirclMastr (9:34:14 PM): "I'm waiting for an apology, at which point we can start over. Otherwise, I walk."
Umbrafer (9:34:31 PM): Conroy (elsewhere): "Well, the situation is…"
Thematrian1 (9:34:33 PM): ::sits in Glitch's car::
Gedeon Ogoun (9:34:45 PM): "Ah....You have no answer as to why you chose to make comments to me, would not shake my hand? Are you a racist?
Umbrafer (9:34:55 PM): (Since you both've heard it, he tells it as it was last time)
Thematrian1 (9:35:01 PM): (or, listens, if we haven't had the briefing yet)
MilesMk1 (9:35:06 PM): (I assume we go over the info we already had last ti... Right.)
Gedeon Ogoun (9:35:07 PM): "I too am waiting for an apology"
CirclMastr (9:35:24 PM): "Yeah, that's it. Everyone who isn't friendly to pricks like you must be racist, just because you're black. Goodbye." *walks away*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:35:35 PM): "Goodbye"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:35:47 PM): "Baka!"
MilesMk1 (9:36:53 PM): "...so, as far as you know, the security is pretty spotty along the beachfront, right?"
CirclMastr (9:36:59 PM): (Now the choice. Do I show up next week with a new character, or start a fight first?)
Umbrafer (9:37:25 PM): (Ah, the irony.)
Thematrian1 (9:37:48 PM): (Dither about it for two hours, make a half-hearted choice, and dither for another hour while making your character)
Gedeon Ogoun (9:37:56 PM): *to fixer* "My apologies. If there is a real run to be had, please contact me"
Gedeon Ogoun (9:38:07 PM): *begins walking to car*
Umbrafer (9:38:09 PM): The fixer is some distance away talking to the other two
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Gedeon Ogoun (9:38:34 PM): so I say it loudly...;>
Umbrafer (9:39:29 PM): The fixer looks like he would like nothing more than to destroy the world.
Gedeon Ogoun (9:40:08 PM): *gets in Jackrabbit*
Gedeon Ogoun (9:40:27 PM): *putter, smoke, rattle*
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Umbrafer (9:41:13 PM): Excuse me for a minute, the GM needs to slam his head into the desk a few times.
MilesMk1 (9:41:21 PM): "It's safe enough to say we're not going to be working with Macleod again... He seemed stable enough till now - all I can say is sorry. And we do still have your job covered."
MilesMk1 (9:41:29 PM): Sure.
Umbrafer (9:47:07 PM): Gnar.
Umbrafer (9:47:13 PM): Where were we.
Umbrafer (9:47:56 PM): "Praise be…"
MilesMk1 (9:49:01 PM): (So, does this mean we lost the new guy for good?)
Thematrian1 (9:49:56 PM): (One of us could plausibly get in touch with him after this run, I guess)
Umbrafer (9:50:07 PM): (Possibly, I'm not sure)
MilesMk1 (9:50:14 PM): (True, but he logged off awfully quickly.)
Umbrafer (9:50:24 PM): (It may depend on whether or not we lose Dave, and I may still be able to rope him for Tuesday)
Thematrian1 (9:50:47 PM): (That depends on me. And I'm not convinced that that 'baka' shit was accidental)
MilesMk1 (9:51:10 PM): (It also means "pygmy", but that's not too flattering either)
Umbrafer (9:51:22 PM): (I know)
Umbrafer (9:51:39 PM): (I was directing him to you rather than saying he had a spot. I know my authority.)
MilesMk1 (9:51:58 PM): (And apparently "cow" in Tagalog and something insulting in Brazillian Portuguese. I love Google...)
Thematrian1 (9:52:01 PM): (Right, sorry. Residual annoyance)
Umbrafer (9:52:06 PM): (But knowing Bron, I do believe it was intended as a minor insult but not what it was)
Thematrian1 (9:52:58 PM): (Ok.)
MilesMk1 (9:53:32 PM): (I'm sort of reminded of my first session in the Thursday game...)
Umbrafer (9:53:34 PM): (Certainly an appropriate response to "you kids and your self-mutilation")
Thematrian1 (9:53:58 PM): (That's a fair comparison. And I see where it leads.)
Umbrafer (9:54:29 PM): (I'm currently talking with Dave about it right now)
Umbrafer (9:54:48 PM): (This is the second case where we've had Dave's character interacting with someone with Vindictive)
Umbrafer (9:55:12 PM): (Only this time they weren't willing to toss part of the character concept for group unity)
Umbrafer (9:55:18 PM): (I'm grateful to you for it, but you shouldn't have had to)
MilesMk1 (9:55:35 PM): (I excuse it by claiming it's Blake's monumental Willpower at work. ;))
Thematrian1 (9:56:30 PM): (But...oh, a joke. Right, I know about those)
MilesMk1 (9:57:35 PM): (I have a nagging feeling we're all talking about almost but not quite what everyone else is.)
Umbrafer (9:58:05 PM): (Hm?)
MilesMk1 (9:58:30 PM): (Exactly! :P)
Thematrian1 (9:58:47 PM): (Well, the Blake thing threw me for a loop)
Thematrian1 (9:59:00 PM): (Blake is still Vindictive, as far as I know)
MilesMk1 (9:59:21 PM): (Right. But he doesn't act on it as often as he should, right?)
Umbrafer (9:59:32 PM): (Ah)
Umbrafer (9:59:39 PM): (For some reason I thought you'd actually dropped it)
Umbrafer (9:59:49 PM): (Either way it should have come into play with Shojo more than a few times)
Thematrian1 (10:00:25 PM): (Right, right)
Umbrafer (10:00:29 PM): (One could argue that he knew that any aggressive action would have resulted in massed MMG fire, but I'll admit that at times I was sorely tempted to metagame and shoot her myself)
MilesMk1 (10:01:03 PM): (Well, Vindictive doesn't actually require me to respond to verbal abuse with physical violence...)
Thematrian1 (10:01:26 PM): (But you do need to take revenge. Your noble restraint was an inspiration, up until Shojo left to take care of Martha)
Thematrian1 (10:01:39 PM): (Now, well, no one's tried to mess with Blake lately)
MilesMk1 (10:02:33 PM): (Well, I did try in small ways, like trying to be friendly with Martha since it obviously drove Shojo nuts)
Thematrian1 (10:03:25 PM): (Is that what that was about. Hehehe)
MilesMk1 (10:03:34 PM): I see Gedeon is back online...
Thematrian1 (10:03:41 PM): bah. s/\./\?/g
Thematrian1 (10:03:56 PM): man, that convention is worthless when you're trying to correct a punctuation mistake
MilesMk1 (10:04:15 PM): (Actually, it was Blake being himself, but he made an extra effort to annoy Shojo)
Umbrafer (10:04:25 PM): Yep, he's back
Thematrian1 (10:05:09 PM): Ok, meanwhile, Jon, do you feel up to watching Glitch and Gem do this run?
Thematrian1 (10:06:25 PM): Or, screw it up, or whatever
Umbrafer (10:07:36 PM): Possibly, just give me a few minutes
Umbrafer (10:07:41 PM): I'm trying to settle what I can
Thematrian1 (10:08:15 PM): Right, no hurry.
Umbrafer (10:12:55 PM): Man, why is it always the party that I feel has more legitimate grievance that is the angrier one?
Thematrian1 (10:13:12 PM): cosmic balance. They have to piss you off equally.
MilesMk1 (10:15:24 PM): More actual reason to be angry?
Thematrian1 (10:15:42 PM): that one's probably right, come to think of it
Umbrafer (10:16:09 PM): Yeah, pretty much
MilesMk1 (10:16:21 PM): I'm also a big believer in conincidence, though. Explains so much. ;p
Umbrafer (10:18:54 PM): Argh.
Umbrafer (10:19:13 PM): I feel he has the right to be angry, I'm not sure he has the right to be /this/ angry, but I don't know how to say that without making him angrier.
Thematrian1 (10:22:05 PM): continue it later, take the edge ofF?
Umbrafer (10:22:25 PM): Well, I've gotten him talking now
MilesMk1 (10:23:10 PM): I guess the question is, who is he mad at - you, Dave, all of us? (and we are talking about Gedeon's player here, right?)
Umbrafer (10:30:18 PM): Primarily Dave.
MilesMk1 (10:30:47 PM): Mhmm.
Umbrafer (10:31:29 PM): He was a little irked by the fact that you took MacLeod's side in it, but was more worried that he'd lost face—taking his side makes some sense if you're a team even if you don't think he's right.
Umbrafer (10:31:36 PM): The translation issue just adds another layer on top of it.
Thematrian1 (10:33:20 PM): that was essentially Gem's reasoning
MilesMk1 (10:35:35 PM): Well, I sort of gave up on using sense as far as keeping Macleod around and resigned myself to asking him to please take money away from us for standing around acting surly, so I figured I wouldn't do a 180 now. ;)
Umbrafer (10:40:07 PM): Umbrafer rolled 15 6-sided dice: 6 1 5 3 1 4 4 4 1 1 2 5 1 1 5
Umbrafer (10:55:28 PM): Harrumph.
Umbrafer (10:55:34 PM): Every time you think you've escaped the drama.
MilesMk1 (10:55:50 PM): ...they drag you back in.
Umbrafer (10:56:08 PM): Well, things seem to be cooling off for tonight. Seiler still around?
MilesMk1 (10:56:12 PM): I've found my house on Google Earth!
MilesMk1 (10:57:02 PM): He appears to have faded away.
Thematrian1 (10:57:07 PM): yeah
Thematrian1 (10:57:09 PM): he's here
Thematrian1 (10:57:16 PM): Gaim doesn't flash chats for me
Umbrafer (10:57:28 PM): Ah
MilesMk1 (10:57:29 PM): AIM doesn't do it for me either.
Umbrafer (10:57:33 PM): *Points at IM window*
Thematrian1 (10:58:39 PM): chats flash in AIM for me, forget how I set it
MilesMk1 (10:59:58 PM): So, what's the verdict? Are we getting either or both of them back? This game, Tuesday game? Will there be ritual knife-fighting?
Umbrafer (11:00:18 PM): Hamster knife-fighting.
MilesMk1 (11:00:33 PM): ...as the two fighters hold the ends of a sacred 2' lenght of cloth in their teeth...
MilesMk1 (11:01:26 PM): Not Cerebus readers, I see?
Umbrafer (11:01:36 PM): Nyet.
MilesMk1 (11:02:28 PM): But, seriously... Any idea where we stand?
Umbrafer (11:03:02 PM): Dave is making a new character for next Thursday. I had a talk with him that may or may not change things.
Umbrafer (11:03:12 PM): Bron is petitioning Seiler for admittance to the Tuesday game.
Umbrafer (11:03:32 PM): Sadly, that leaves us in search of a player for this game.
Umbrafer (11:04:17 PM): Still, that is.
MilesMk1 (11:04:25 PM): Mhmm.... Advertising on Dumpshock?
Umbrafer (11:05:29 PM): Possibly.
MilesMk1 (11:06:27 PM): Still, some Dumpshockers.... Well, I suppose we don't need to worry about everyone on our "stab in the face" list, 90% of them are playing SR4.
Umbrafer (11:06:35 PM): Indeed.
Umbrafer (11:06:44 PM): Shadow_prophet has worked his way onto the list
Umbrafer (11:06:49 PM): Though where he stands on it is fluctuating
Thematrian1 (11:06:56 PM): er
Thematrian1 (11:06:59 PM): thought he was SR4?
Umbrafer (11:07:11 PM): Yes, he is. I mean the "stab in the face" list.
Umbrafer (11:07:46 PM): Sometimes he sounds semi-reasonable, other times… well, there's one thread in which he dismisses the fact that he doesn't actually have any evidence or reasoning behind his statements as "abstract thinking".
Umbrafer (11:08:03 PM): I was waiting for you to show up in the Technomancer thread.
MilesMk1 (11:08:19 PM): Sabosect is currently near the top of my list... Heh - you mean the brain talk?
Umbrafer (11:08:25 PM): Yes.
Umbrafer (11:08:36 PM): What'd Sabosect do to get there? I haven't been paying much attention to him.
MilesMk1 (11:09:40 PM): The "Glitches" thread.
MilesMk1 (11:10:03 PM): He claimed SR4 is "street level", I pointed out that, with the new caps, it's actually anything but.
Umbrafer (11:10:09 PM): Ah yes
Umbrafer (11:10:18 PM): Yes, that was pretty annoying.
Umbrafer (11:10:23 PM): Oh, Shadow_Prophet explained what he means by abstract thinking!
MilesMk1 (11:10:44 PM): He basically came back with the assertion that runners don't qualify as professionals because they lack uniforms and badges.
Umbrafer (11:11:00 PM): Yeah.
Umbrafer (11:11:05 PM): I think that was where I gave up reading.
MilesMk1 (11:11:19 PM): That after he said runners aren't professionals because they lack professional equipment, and I pointed out Tir Ghosts have the same kind of gear runners do.
Umbrafer (11:11:50 PM): Apparently, abstract thinking is deciding that since you're the GM you can make six dice not always mean six dice.
MilesMk1 (11:12:03 PM): That is abstract,
MilesMk1 (11:12:44 PM): Shadow_Prophet, IIRC, made my list in the thread that gave birth to Mr.24.
Umbrafer (11:12:58 PM): I mean, I agree that Skill 1, Attribute 5 should not be the same as Skill 5, Attribute 1
MilesMk1 (11:13:06 PM): The whole "as soon as you have 20+ dice in a skill, all enemies will realize that and kill you" argument...
Umbrafer (11:13:19 PM): And SR3 captured that idea well, in my opinion.
Umbrafer (11:13:38 PM): SR4… the hell are the rules for if you're going to declare "oh, this test is harder even though the rules say it's really the same"
Umbrafer (11:13:49 PM): I don't remember that one.
Umbrafer (11:13:55 PM): I mean, I remember Mr. 24
Umbrafer (11:14:00 PM): I don't remember his argument there
MilesMk1 (11:14:45 PM): Apparently, the reason you shouldn't make a Mr.24 (even if you could make him a viable character) is that because if you do, and take out enemies with frightening precision, all the remaining ones will concentrate on killing you.
MilesMk1 (11:14:58 PM): Apparently materialazing grenades and heavy weapons to do so.
Umbrafer (11:15:03 PM): Well, oh.
Umbrafer (11:15:20 PM): I was in the middle of typing that he had a point, then you go and ruin my illusion on me.
Umbrafer (11:16:46 PM): You know, I hate the idea, but with certain exceptions (Ellery, for example) one can make a pretty good filter based on what percentage of one's posts are in the SR4 forum.
Umbrafer (11:17:01 PM): Nah, there are probably more exceptions that I don't see
Umbrafer (11:17:11 PM): But there's an inescapable correlation.
MilesMk1 (11:18:03 PM): My point was that - all other things being equal - you're actually better off being Mr.24, because that way, at least fewer people live to fire back at you...
Umbrafer (11:18:47 PM): 'Strue.
Umbrafer (11:18:51 PM): I mean
Umbrafer (11:19:12 PM): The only advantage to being the lesser-skilled guy is that the enemies may kill off the greater-skilled guys before you
Umbrafer (11:19:21 PM): But that just means that eventually you're the greater-skilled guy
Umbrafer (11:19:24 PM): And your skill still sucks
Umbrafer (11:19:33 PM): (Or they fire at you before they know who is or is not skilled)
MilesMk1 (11:20:00 PM): Or they fire at whoever made himself a target in the countless other ways besides having 24 skill dice...
Umbrafer (11:20:11 PM): 'Strue.
Umbrafer (11:20:28 PM): You don't notice the guy with a one-shot-one-kill record when the giant polearm-wielding Troll is charging you
Thematrian1 (11:20:55 PM): wait, when did Bug City happen in the canon timeline?
MilesMk1 (11:21:17 PM): I mean, it's sort of like saying Blake would have been better off the last couple of sessions if he'd merely been wounding people with his bursts...
Umbrafer (11:21:32 PM): The sourcebook or the Chicago shutdown?
Thematrian1 (11:21:42 PM): the shutdown
Umbrafer (11:21:56 PM): When we had it happen. August 21st, I think? *Digs for timeline*
Umbrafer (11:21:58 PM): Why?
MilesMk1 (11:22:00 PM): Shit, the Sunday game ran late, and I forgot to look at those SR books again. Curses.
MilesMk1 (11:22:10 PM): Maybe this week...
Thematrian1 (11:22:19 PM): I meant, what year
Umbrafer (11:22:24 PM): 2055
Umbrafer (11:22:30 PM): August 22, 2055
MilesMk1 (11:22:32 PM): Why?
Umbrafer (11:23:23 PM): The Compensation Army is on the streets of DeeCee, though tensions don't get hot until the 24th
MilesMk1 (11:24:27 PM): I thought our Tuesday game was in line with the canon calendar...?
Umbrafer (11:24:45 PM): It is
Umbrafer (11:24:53 PM): Or should be
Thematrian1 (11:25:35 PM): yeah, we're in 2055
Umbrafer (11:26:02 PM): If we survive until 2058 we don't even have to leave Chicago
Umbrafer (11:26:16 PM): Though Rock might appreciate it if we do
Thematrian1 (11:28:16 PM): he among others
MilesMk1 (11:28:31 PM): Well, considering the rate the in-game time has progressed, by 2058 I'll be destitute because Social Security will no longer exist...
Umbrafer (11:28:39 PM): Oh yeah, Trickster would appreciate it a lot more.
Umbrafer (11:29:38 PM): Well, let's see
MilesMk1 (11:30:04 PM): So far, it's been 2+ months in, what, 1.5 years real-time? :)
Umbrafer (11:30:09 PM): It takes us about a year real-time to progress two months in-game
Thematrian1 (11:30:34 PM): inadequate use of downtime, maybe
Umbrafer (11:30:38 PM): These few days are taking us longer than usual
MilesMk1 (11:30:43 PM): I was wrong, I'll only be 45 or so. ;)
Umbrafer (11:30:55 PM): See? Plenty of time :)
Thematrian1 (11:30:58 PM): SS will still be gone, but you'll have a job still
Umbrafer (11:31:16 PM): Retire up here, then we can keep playing in the old-folk's home ;)
Umbrafer (11:31:30 PM): All us decrepit 80-year-olds with our bricks of d6s.
Thematrian1 (11:31:50 PM): the old folks' home will be wireless, with brainstem computers, by then
MilesMk1 (11:31:58 PM): Well, I always hated the weather in Florida anyway. And they have hurricanes...
Thematrian1 (11:32:40 PM): they sure do. Massachusetts sometimes has blizzards, though
MilesMk1 (11:33:22 PM): I'll finally have enough free time to get up to level 650 in EQ 23 or whatever and gank those annoying 13-year olds that got on my nerves when I was younger...
Umbrafer (11:33:48 PM): :D
MilesMk1 (11:34:14 PM): So... What part of Boston are you in, anyway? (playing with Google Earth here)
Umbrafer (11:34:41 PM): Milton, specifically. By the Neponset River.
MilesMk1 (11:34:44 PM): Or Massachussets... I don't know why I assumed Boston...
MilesMk1 (11:34:57 PM): I see Milton....
Umbrafer (11:35:04 PM): You mean aside from the fact that every post I have on Dumpshock has "Location: Boston" on it? ;)
Umbrafer (11:35:12 PM): I can't imagine how you would assume I was from Boston ;)
MilesMk1 (11:35:33 PM): Hmm... Turner's Pond is...?
Umbrafer (11:35:35 PM): Adams Street
Umbrafer (11:35:43 PM): Under a mile away
MilesMk1 (11:35:48 PM): To the?
MilesMk1 (11:36:22 PM): Don't worry, I'm not tasking an ICBM strike. :p
Umbrafer (11:36:27 PM): To the that direction, I don't know compass directions.
Umbrafer (11:36:29 PM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (11:36:45 PM): I'm generally East of that, but…
Umbrafer (11:36:56 PM): Possibly somewhat North as well?
Umbrafer (11:36:59 PM): Look for the river.
MilesMk1 (11:37:37 PM): I see the river... It widens considerably at one point.
Umbrafer (11:37:55 PM): That could be the dam.
Umbrafer (11:38:06 PM): Does it go under a bridge immediately after?
MilesMk1 (11:38:58 PM): There are several bridges...
Umbrafer (11:39:33 PM): Well
MilesMk1 (11:39:35 PM): And a reservoir listed, but it's not clear what that is.
MilesMk1 (11:39:43 PM): In the satellite image, I mean.
Umbrafer (11:39:46 PM): There are some big buildings near my bridge
Umbrafer (11:39:58 PM): And on the other side there's a road that has a weird intersection
Umbrafer (11:40:07 PM): Two roads intersect it at different angles
Umbrafer (11:40:20 PM): And both merge on, there's just a phone company building on the other side
Umbrafer (11:40:33 PM): It's a little distance away
Umbrafer (11:40:37 PM): Wait!
Umbrafer (11:40:39 PM): Train tracks!
Umbrafer (11:40:53 PM): There's a trolly by the bridge that I live up the street from
Umbrafer (11:41:11 PM): (Trivia: Boston is one of two US cities with a functional trolley system)
MilesMk1 (11:42:31 PM): There's what looks like a railroad track running along the river...
Umbrafer (11:42:58 PM): Is there a bike path next to it?
Umbrafer (11:43:05 PM): Wait, what year is this from?
Umbrafer (11:43:11 PM): The imagery, rather
MilesMk1 (11:43:25 PM): No clue... Is there a park with to baseball diamonds in the area?
MilesMk1 (11:43:57 PM): two baseball diamonds, I mean.
Umbrafer (11:44:35 PM): Hm… *thinks*
Umbrafer (11:44:47 PM): I believe so. Is there a playground and a road on either side?
Umbrafer (11:44:58 PM): The playground may not be visible, I don't know how close this gets
MilesMk1 (11:45:29 PM): Is the plaground sort of semi-circular?
MilesMk1 (11:45:44 PM): There's also a basketball and a tennis court.
Umbrafer (11:46:12 PM): I… don't think so. It's been too long s… no, that's not one I know.
Umbrafer (11:46:28 PM): It may be relatively close, but I'm pretty sure it's further away than Turner's Pond.
MilesMk1 (11:47:10 PM): Wait... Is it North or South of the river?
Umbrafer (11:47:39 PM): My house is due East of the closest point of the river to me. I'm South of the bridge.
MilesMk1 (11:48:02 PM): Is Turner's Pond on the same side of the river as your house?
Umbrafer (11:48:31 PM): Yes.
MilesMk1 (11:49:49 PM): Does "your" section of the river have a lot of... little islands and things in it?
Umbrafer (11:50:33 PM): I don't think any of them are islands. There's a big section of undeveloped land, I think it's a park. It's directly East out my window.
Umbrafer (11:50:34 PM): The river also takes a big bend.
Umbrafer (11:50:42 PM): And come to think of it, it also gets a lot wider than it was
Umbrafer (11:51:08 PM): Yeah, I think I'm right about where the river gets really wide. There's a boatyard (tiny one, but boats nonetheless) down at the foot of the hill.
Umbrafer (11:52:03 PM): There's also a highway across the river-bends
Umbrafer (11:52:17 PM): And a gold course. They're pretty much due East.
Umbrafer (11:53:24 PM): *Golf course
MilesMk1 (11:53:26 PM): Is the gold course across the river?
Umbrafer (11:54:07 PM): Ish. The river takes some weird bends, so it may be on the same side as me eventually, but from where I'm sitting there is river in a straight line between me and the course.
MilesMk1 (11:55:11 PM): Is there a large-ish building (much bigger than anything else in the area up the hill from the boatyard?)
MilesMk1 (11:55:27 PM): (Immediate area I should say)
Umbrafer (11:56:01 PM): Ish? There's a phone company building. What does the road look like around the building?
MilesMk1 (11:57:21 PM): Sort of like it has a kink in it.
MilesMk1 (11:57:38 PM): And two other enter it from the SW at that point.
Umbrafer (11:58:08 PM): That… may be it.
MilesMk1 (11:58:11 PM): If you follow it north, it gets to a bridge.
Umbrafer (11:58:23 PM): North… yeah, and are there larger buildings by the bridge?
Umbrafer (11:58:35 PM): And a road that connects from the West?
MilesMk1 (11:59:31 PM): There's a road that connects from the west right before the bridge.
MilesMk1 (11:59:40 PM): And a number of large buildings around it.
Umbrafer (11:59:46 PM): Yep, that's the street. Ok, the big building you were talking about before?
Umbrafer (11:59:55 PM): I'm the second house South of that.
Thematrian1 (12:00:19 AM): ::quiet awe of this entire age::
Umbrafer (12:00:28 AM): :)
Umbrafer (12:00:38 AM): I love technology.
Umbrafer (12:00:47 AM): Now get that orbital laser away from me.
MilesMk1 (12:01:08 AM): It looks like there are ~7 houses south of that large building along the road, then a huge empty field...
Umbrafer (12:01:17 AM): Yep
Umbrafer (12:01:26 AM): That would be Hutchinson's Field.
Umbrafer (12:01:43 AM): The governor gave every reporter in the area poison ivy there once.
MilesMk1 (12:01:56 AM): Do you guys have two light-colored cars in front of the house?
MilesMk1 (12:02:24 AM): Poison Ivy? Every reporter? Was the man reelected?
Umbrafer (12:02:52 AM): Possibly. Depending on how old the imagery is, the cars we've had there in the past five years were light blue, eggplant purple, silver, and most recently black
Umbrafer (12:03:00 AM): (Our ancient cars are finally starting to give way)
Umbrafer (12:03:22 AM): The black is the most recent, so the first three are more likely
MilesMk1 (12:03:27 AM): Mhmm... It's hard to say - the resolution isn't as high as in some places, and there are trees...
Umbrafer (12:03:28 AM): I believe he was reelected
Umbrafer (12:03:40 AM): The thing is, that field grows wild most of the time
Umbrafer (12:03:45 AM): And has a fair bit of poison ivy
Umbrafer (12:04:09 AM): And they mowed it before the governor showed up, but didn't clear away the trimmings
Umbrafer (12:04:11 AM): And the reporters were waiting there for him
Umbrafer (12:04:16 AM): And he showed up by helicopter
Umbrafer (12:04:22 AM): And you can probably guess the rest.
MilesMk1 (12:04:23 AM): Hehe...
MilesMk1 (12:04:34 AM): I *think* I'm actually immune to the stuff.
Umbrafer (12:04:40 AM): Same her
Umbrafer (12:04:46 AM): *here
MilesMk1 (12:05:18 AM): Never cared to know for sure so badly I tested it outright, but I did walk around in shorts (and get my legs scratched up, and so on) in areas where several people got it, and wasn't affected at all.
MilesMk1 (12:05:33 AM): So either I was just really lucky, or it doesn't affect me.
MilesMk1 (12:06:02 AM): So, are any of your neighbors of annoyance to you>?
Umbrafer (12:06:06 AM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (12:06:21 AM): Not really, I don't interact with them much
MilesMk1 (12:06:40 AM): See, with my house it'd be much too easy... Manhattan is sort of easy to sort out that way.
Umbrafer (12:06:55 AM): Though my mother once had to rescue a chicken walking down the road. It had escaped from one of the people up the street.
MilesMk1 (12:07:43 AM): ...
MilesMk1 (12:08:01 AM): I came across a whole chicken lying on the subway tracks.
MilesMk1 (12:08:06 AM): once.
Umbrafer (12:08:11 AM): Aww… poor thing.
MilesMk1 (12:08:17 AM): Well, saw it from the platform, anyway.
Umbrafer (12:08:38 AM): It's not as bad as Heath, but with some of the stories I tell you'd think I lived in the country, not less than a mile away from a sizable city.
MilesMk1 (12:08:44 AM): Absolutely no clue how an uplucked chicken made its way into Manhattan...
MilesMk1 (12:09:20 AM): We did have a bird of prey of some sort make an appearance a couple of weeks ago.
Umbrafer (12:09:39 AM): How did it make itself known?
MilesMk1 (12:10:38 AM): It landed in the planted divider between the north and south bound lanes of Broadway and screeched in fright or anger at the growing crowd. Then it moved to the roof of the liquor store about 50 feet away.
Umbrafer (12:10:41 AM): Man, I have the feeling that Talia Invierno is talking about something different from what the rest of us are talking about.
Umbrafer (12:10:50 AM): Hehehe
MilesMk1 (12:10:59 AM): It petrified the pigeons.
Umbrafer (12:11:05 AM): I'm not surprised.
MilesMk1 (12:11:17 AM): There were some on the roof maybe 20-30 feet away, and they just didn't move.
Thematrian1 (12:11:19 AM): uh oh. The plot structure thread?
Umbrafer (12:11:21 AM): I'm slightly surprised that it didn't do rather more to them.
Thematrian1 (12:11:23 AM): hehe
Umbrafer (12:11:28 AM): Yep
Umbrafer (12:11:47 AM): His response was, roughly, "maybe I'm missing something, but how is that not contradictory?"
Umbrafer (12:12:07 AM): I mean, maybe he just doesn't get it, but his "getting it" percentage is usually pretty high.
MilesMk1 (12:12:09 AM): Which thread is it?
Umbrafer (12:12:19 AM): http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=9981
Thematrian1 (12:12:53 AM): yeah, he's a bright guy, which is why I was so surprised by his failure to grok the difference between NPC and GM intentions
Umbrafer (12:13:05 AM): Then there's Toturi, who is /always/ talking about something different from what everyone else is talking about
Umbrafer (12:13:08 AM): Indeed.
Umbrafer (12:13:54 AM): I earned Toturi's respect one day when I kept up with him in twisting the words of the book to make pure canon say what I wanted it to say
Umbrafer (12:14:04 AM): It was some discussion over Connected
Umbrafer (12:15:15 AM): A vagueness in the emphasis of a sentence enabled a reading whereby a Connected contact will always buy (but not necessarily at a desirable price) and will always sell at the best possible price (but will not always sell)
Thematrian1 (12:15:56 AM): ...
Thematrian1 (12:15:59 AM): wow
MilesMk1 (12:16:39 AM): He's sort of amusing.
Thematrian1 (12:16:43 AM): That is some quality nit-picking
MilesMk1 (12:17:07 AM): I don't think he likes me, I picked on him in the "Newbie Advice" thread.
Umbrafer (12:17:32 AM): Nit-picking with pride :)
Umbrafer (12:17:35 AM): How so?
MilesMk1 (12:18:16 AM): He faded into thin air, never to be seen again, after I caught him adding up the layered armor values incorrectly. (that, or getting the armor values for a vest with plates confused with those of an armored jacket)
MilesMk1 (12:18:26 AM): (well, never to be seen in that thread, anyway)
MilesMk1 (12:20:07 AM): Or maybe it's just that I don't like him, and I'm projecting. :)
Umbrafer (12:20:17 AM): Hehehe
Umbrafer (12:20:43 AM): Fair enow. He's not for everyone. I've grown a certain fondness for him, but I wouldn't necessarily turn to him for Shadowrun advice per se
Umbrafer (12:21:57 AM): And now that I remember, he mostly annoyed me until I learned to play his game.
Umbrafer (12:22:06 AM): Then again, picking nits has always been a sort of family exercise
Umbrafer (12:22:12 AM): In the figurative sense
MilesMk1 (12:22:54 AM): I mean, he does know the rules well, but what he does with it often is of no help to anyone... IMO. Still, he's definitely not on The List.
MilesMk1 (12:24:37 AM): Anyway.
MilesMk1 (12:24:51 AM): Good night, gentlemen. See you Tuesday.
MilesMk1 (12:25:11 AM): (I guess this log is probably not getting posted. ;))
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Umbrafer (12:26:06 AM): That's the other question I was going to ask
Umbrafer (12:26:34 AM): Any word on the stance of CMU with regard to nonenrolled registration?
Umbrafer (12:26:45 AM): Answer's probably no, but as I mention, worth a shot…
Thematrian1 (12:29:11 AM): the answer I got wasn't definitive. You can certainly show up, but as for certified credit
Umbrafer (12:29:41 AM): Well, them not calling security on me is probably the most important part
Thematrian1 (12:30:13 AM): they won't
Umbrafer (12:32:21 AM): I'll have to see where things go, but if you haven't found anyone in a month, month and a half I may just take you up on that. What's the rent like?
Umbrafer (12:34:41 AM): (I would let you know sooner, but I need to wait in case Rose tells me something like "sure, but you absolutely must have X, Y, and Z credits by the time you get here". Or other unanticipated eventualities like that.)
Thematrian1 (12:35:53 AM): (Right)
Thematrian1 (12:36:16 AM): It's steep, $400/month. What we get for living near a major university
Thematrian1 (12:36:51 AM): ok, I have to go to bed. Well, go home and go to bed
Thematrian1 (12:37:08 AM): see you around, I'm sure; at some point I'll want to talk to Gedeon's player
Umbrafer (12:37:19 AM): *Nods* Take care, sleep well, talk to you Tuesday if not before
Umbrafer (12:37:22 AM): Sure
Umbrafer (12:37:26 AM): You didn't tonight?
Thematrian1 (12:37:34 AM): I did
Umbrafer (12:37:43 AM): Ah
Thematrian1 (12:37:46 AM): but I'll need to look at his character, approve it or not, figure out where he fits into the game, etc
Umbrafer (12:38:31 AM): Ah, I see. He seemed to have gotten the impression that you weren't open to additional players. Well, I'll put him in touch with you and it'll all get sorted out.
Thematrian1 (12:38:57 AM): well, I said I'd need to look it over, but I did offer
Umbrafer (12:39:04 AM): Ah
Umbrafer (12:39:23 AM): And meanwhile I desperately try to make sure that Dave makes someone who fits with the group, rather than just making someone saccharine and being hurt when that doesn't do it.
Thematrian1 (12:39:37 AM): I don't envy you
Umbrafer (12:39:51 AM): Heh. Anyway, you need sleep. Anon! *Waves*
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