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Umbrafer (8:15:41 PM): Good times.
MilesMk1 (8:15:47 PM): Well, that works.
Umbrafer (8:15:48 PM): Umbrafer rolled 4 6-sided dice: 5 2 4 5
MilesMk1 (8:15:53 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 5 5 2 4 3 1
MilesMk1 (8:15:59 PM): Aw, fuck.
MilesMk1 (8:16:08 PM): I didn't misspell, did I?
MilesMk1 (8:16:16 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Umbrafer (8:16:17 PM): Nope. Decent roll, too
Umbrafer (8:16:18 PM): Not great
MilesMk1 (8:16:28 PM): You saw my roll?
Umbrafer (8:16:39 PM): 5, 5, 2, 4, 3, 1—I guess it's slightly worse than average, actually
MilesMk1 (8:16:55 PM): Shit, it's not displaying for me.
MilesMk1 (8:17:01 PM): I will stab someone at AOL in the face.
MilesMk1 (8:17:15 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 15 6-sided dice: 2 4 1 2 1 2 6 5 6 4 2 3 6 4 1
MilesMk1 (8:18:13 PM): Curses.
MilesMk1 (8:35:19 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 4 4 1 2 4 2
MilesMk1 (8:35:22 PM): /roll-dice 6
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MilesMk1 (8:36:12 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 5 1 1 2 3 5
MilesMk1 (8:36:17 PM): AAARGH!
MilesMk1 (8:36:22 PM): Evening.
MilesMk1 (8:36:28 PM): I can't see my die rolls. :-(
Thematrian1 (8:36:31 PM): so close to a good fibonnaci sequence
Thematrian1 (8:36:35 PM): 5 1 1 2 3 5
Thematrian1 (8:36:41 PM): if you'd rolled one fewer die...
MilesMk1 (8:36:55 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 5 6-sided dice: 5 3 2 4 5
Umbrafer (8:37:11 PM): He would have gotten 5 1 1 2 3
MilesMk1 (8:37:27 PM): So, does anyone feel like telling me what I roll, or should I try to resolve this?
Thematrian1 (8:37:32 PM): it'd be all the right numbers, anyway
Thematrian1 (8:37:38 PM): well, it looks like we're going to have some spare time
MilesMk1 (8:37:59 PM): On account of Dragcrell and Gedeon?
Thematrian1 (8:38:06 PM): and Rock
MilesMk1 (8:38:12 PM): Oh, yes.
Thematrian1 (8:38:17 PM): the majority of the team is MIA
MilesMk1 (8:38:32 PM): I guess I'll look around and see if I can locate an older version of AIM.
MilesMk1 (8:38:52 PM): (I'm on a different PC, had to install this hideous "triton" thing)
Thematrian1 (8:39:11 PM): (yuck)
MilesMk1 (8:39:32 PM): (Twice as unwieldy as before!)
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Dragcrell (8:42:38 PM): mmmmm quiet
Thematrian1 (8:42:52 PM): yeah, less rowd than usual
Thematrian1 (8:42:57 PM): I finally saw the Narnia movie
Thematrian1 (8:42:59 PM): it did rock
Dragcrell (8:43:21 PM): hehehehe I've seen a old one so the new one dont realy intrest me that much
Thematrian1 (8:43:28 PM): the BBC one?
Dragcrell (8:43:49 PM): think so ya but was a few years back when I watched it
Dragcrell (8:44:05 PM): >_> hell I think I even seen the animated one once as well
Thematrian1 (8:44:14 PM): woah. Well, the new one is better
MilesMk1 (8:44:26 PM): The new one was very good.
Dragcrell (8:44:55 PM): wish I could get the book tho the books are always better then the movies
Dragcrell (8:45:29 PM): the Jeresic park movies sucked ass compared to the books infact
Umbrafer (8:45:34 PM): It seems to me that it should be the kind of thing available absolutely everywhere, even before the books
MilesMk1 (8:45:37 PM): I liked the fact they didn't feel the need to make them little cynical semi-adults, like they do in so many movies...
Umbrafer (8:45:40 PM): Er
Umbrafer (8:45:41 PM): Movies
Umbrafer (8:45:44 PM): <--asleep
MilesMk1 (8:45:59 PM): You want the book? I have the complete thing, just pay shipping. ;-)
Dragcrell (8:46:34 PM): lol oh I could get one still bashing my way throw the new batch I just got lol
MilesMk1 (8:46:59 PM): (Bought it a couple of years ago to see what all the fuss was about, and while it was nice, I decided it was probably, oh, 14 or 15 years too late.)
Dragcrell (8:47:19 PM): but ya in the first book Dr. hamble they guy that made the Park was killed at the very end of the book by the scavager dinos lol
Thematrian1 (8:47:24 PM): (Yeah, probably. I like them now, but they are definitely children's books)
Umbrafer (8:47:25 PM): (Mmm, mithraic symbolism.)
Thematrian1 (8:47:41 PM): (Heh, now you're just baiting me)
Umbrafer (8:47:45 PM): ( :) )
MilesMk1 (8:47:49 PM): (Mithraic?)
MilesMk1 (8:48:00 PM): (I'm ashamed to say I don't follow.)
Dragcrell (8:49:01 PM): and in the secont book the same two kids from the first book stow away sadly the only part of the secont movie that even came close to being the same as the book was the part where the 2 T-rexes push the moble base over the cliff
Thematrian1 (8:49:21 PM): (I don't recall the details, but Mithras was a leader-who-dies-and-will-be-reborn that predates Christ)
Thematrian1 (8:49:35 PM): Dragcrell: I admit, I didn't see the second one
MilesMk1 (8:49:47 PM): (BTW, I've started reading the "Master and Commander" series of books... And I think some of the figures of speech are starting to find their way into my writing.)
Thematrian1 (8:50:26 PM): (I haven't. Who wrote them, what are they like?)
Umbrafer (8:50:30 PM): (That's the basic idea, but there were some key differences)
MilesMk1 (8:50:37 PM): (Patrick O'Brian.)
Dragcrell (8:50:45 PM): was acutly disapointed in the movie -_- wanted to see how they was going to show a R-rex marking a jeep like in the book funny as hell that part they all thout they was dead when the rex came out of the woods but it sat down and
Dragcrell (8:50:51 PM): maked there jeep in sted
Umbrafer (8:51:23 PM): (In particular, that Mithras, like Aslan, comes to earth powerful, sacrificed himself voluntarily, and emerged even more powerful as a result)
Umbrafer (8:51:30 PM): (Very little humility involved)
Dragcrell (8:52:02 PM): then there was the part in the book with the camilion Dino's not ever the Raps would enter the area at night becuse of those two
Thematrian1 (8:52:03 PM): (Why'd he make the sacrifice, though?)
MilesMk1 (8:52:10 PM): (They're a lot like the movie, except it's a lot heavier on character development, and quite a bit longer... There's 20 of them.)
Thematrian1 (8:52:32 PM): (I haven't seen it, either)
MilesMk1 (8:52:44 PM): I dimly recall trying to read Jurassic Park II. It's been a while... But yeah, the movie blew.
MilesMk1 (8:53:05 PM): (You haven't.... *fumes*)
MilesMk1 (8:53:11 PM): (Great movie.)
Dragcrell (8:53:13 PM): ya it did they didn't ever try to follow the book would have been MUCH better if they had
MilesMk1 (8:53:53 PM): (Basically, it's about a British naval captain and his buddy the surgeon, knocking around the world during the Napoleonic times.)
Dragcrell (8:53:56 PM): *chucles* then again usaly true of any movie they bace off a book
MilesMk1 (8:54:56 PM): (Historical fiction, sort of similar to the Sharpe books - though better written, in general.)
Thematrian1 (8:55:22 PM): (We have a few of those knocking around the house, I think)
Dragcrell (8:55:54 PM): hehehe ya I like the Sci-fi and fantacy books my self ^_^
MilesMk1 (8:56:15 PM): (The movie had amazing production values. Tons of detail.)
Thematrian1 (8:56:31 PM): I've been reading lots of Tim Powers
Dragcrell (8:56:38 PM): is now lost lol
Umbrafer (8:57:15 PM): I've been reading through the old Shadowrun novels. An extremely mixed bag, that.
Thematrian1 (8:57:20 PM): so I hear
Thematrian1 (8:57:35 PM): Tim Powers is an urban fantasy author
Dragcrell (8:57:45 PM): lol any of you guys do a book report on a book soly by memory :P
Thematrian1 (8:58:11 PM): heh. I once prepared for a book report at school by saying "We have to present a what? Today?"
Dragcrell (8:59:23 PM): lol ya the English teacher handed out a sheet with what we had to do to get what grade one was a book report did mine on a book I had read two weeks early only thaing I had to get the book for was to get the right spelling of the
Dragcrell (8:59:25 PM): main chers name lol
Thematrian1 (8:59:30 PM): hehehe
Umbrafer (8:59:48 PM): (I can't find anything more substantive to the purpose of Mithras' sacrifice than "the salvation of mankind", gaining the benefit of his blood and his sperm. That's early cultures for you.)
MilesMk1 (9:00:03 PM): Tim Powers rules.
MilesMk1 (9:00:23 PM): Did he put out anything new?
Dragcrell (9:00:34 PM): yep Science facts or novels I have read I can give you a over veiw of it even when I had read the book a year or two ago
Thematrian1 (9:00:38 PM): nah, I just missed Last Call somehow
MilesMk1 (9:00:47 PM): I loved all his stuff, aside from Declare... Though it was a bit rambling and dense.
MilesMk1 (9:00:57 PM): Last Call... My second favorite one.
Thematrian1 (9:01:00 PM): heh, Declare is my favorite, albeit barely
Thematrian1 (9:01:06 PM): close-run thing with The Anibus Gates
MilesMk1 (9:01:07 PM): After Anubis Gates.
Thematrian1 (9:01:08 PM): er
Thematrian1 (9:01:08 PM): Anubis
Dragcrell (9:01:59 PM): any of you ever read the Death Gate Cycle books?
Thematrian1 (9:02:49 PM): I have, yeah
MilesMk1 (9:02:53 PM): Is that one with people with white and black hair, flying ships, a dragon with a wizard familiar?
Thematrian1 (9:02:54 PM): better than Darksword, IMO
Thematrian1 (9:03:01 PM): No
Thematrian1 (9:03:32 PM): um...it's the one with the deadly magical prison
MilesMk1 (9:03:43 PM): Hmm... Pretend I put that parenthesis in the right place, and finished my thought. :P
Umbrafer (9:04:09 PM): Reminds me, I need to do another batch-distribution of copies of The Iron Dragon's Daughter someday.
Dragcrell (9:04:12 PM): lol good books realy ^_^
Thematrian1 (9:04:32 PM): Definitely. I keep meaning to start an RPG in that world/those worlds
Dragcrell (9:04:35 PM): tho did like the Wizered with the Dragon as a butler lol
MilesMk1 (9:04:38 PM): The magical prison... Someone made an adventure game out of it, a while back, didn't they?
Umbrafer (9:04:51 PM): Other folk, ever read it?
Thematrian1 (9:05:08 PM): Matt: s'possible, I'm not sure
Thematrian1 (9:05:19 PM): actually, Matt, you might be right. I forgot about that
Dragcrell (9:05:27 PM): mmmm the World of Earth would be a rather intresting place to be in
Thematrian1 (9:05:36 PM): I liked their approach to necromancy
MilesMk1 (9:05:59 PM): Nope... I remember you reccommending it at one point, but the synopsis I've read of it seemed a bit... depressing, more than i could handle at the time.
Thematrian1 (9:06:45 PM): yeah, that's fair
Dragcrell (9:06:50 PM): mmm I liked the way he had to two mage races use the same type of magic but only diffrence was how they use the runes to do it
MilesMk1 (9:07:36 PM): ...and didn't those two mage races have features (forget which ones) that were black in one, and white in the other?
Thematrian1 (9:07:53 PM): I don't remember that, but I wouldn't necessarily
Dragcrell (9:08:08 PM): one had White hair with brown ends and the other was brown hair white ends
MilesMk1 (9:08:13 PM): And one of them was trapped in the magical prison, because of how eeevil they were?
MilesMk1 (9:08:36 PM): White and brown... I knew I had a vague idea of what i was talking about.
Thematrian1 (9:08:42 PM): yeah, pretty much
Dragcrell (9:08:47 PM): well not Evil but more of the renigads
Dragcrell (9:09:31 PM): *snickers* ohhhh Alfred tho ^_^ laugh a min when ever he was around tho lol
MilesMk1 (9:10:45 PM): Dum-dee-dum...
Dragcrell (9:10:56 PM): ya where are the other two at?
MilesMk1 (9:11:03 PM): May I suggest poking either Gedeon or Rock with a stick?
Thematrian1 (9:11:09 PM): 9:10. Yeah, there's not going to be a game tonight. Sorry, everbody
Dragcrell (9:11:16 PM): -_-
MilesMk1 (9:11:29 PM): Mhmm... Oh well.
Dragcrell (9:11:48 PM): well that sucks
MilesMk1 (9:11:58 PM): The new season of "Shield" starts tonight, I guess I'll survive... not that I wouldn't rather play, mind you...
Umbrafer (9:12:00 PM): Yeah, unfortunately Adam is still in Minneapolis.
MilesMk1 (9:12:07 PM): Damn that city.
Dragcrell (9:12:18 PM): and Gedon?
Umbrafer (9:12:26 PM): Off making a zombie.
Dragcrell (9:12:33 PM): lol
MilesMk1 (9:12:38 PM): And the GM isn't even losing connection...
Thematrian1 (9:12:48 PM): yeah, I figured out the problem
Dragcrell (9:12:50 PM): I know >_<
Dragcrell (9:12:53 PM): cool
Thematrian1 (9:12:54 PM): and next week I'll be in Pittsburgh
MilesMk1 (9:12:55 PM): Ah. Good.
Thematrian1 (9:12:57 PM): with a different problem
MilesMk1 (9:13:08 PM): Oh... Not so good, then.
Dragcrell (9:13:15 PM): now some one hunt down Gedeon and drag his ass in here
Umbrafer (9:13:39 PM): We'll delegate that to MacLeod.
MilesMk1 (9:13:58 PM): So... Are we calling the game for sure, or are we waiting another 15 or 20 minutes to see if he shows?
Thematrian1 (9:14:26 PM): we've already done that twice. The game is called. Go forth and spend your evenings
Dragcrell (9:14:46 PM): awwwwwwwwww -_- dame it
Umbrafer (9:14:50 PM): If he's not here by now, my suspicion is that he told me he wasn't going to be able to make it and I forgot. He generally calls me if he's going to be late (or absent) and hasn't said so yet.
Thematrian1 (9:14:53 PM): yeah, sorry
MilesMk1 (9:15:12 PM): (BTW, I just remembered... I can't use my own computer for the moment, so I can't do anything in FreeCiv - so feel free to just end the turn for me for the next day or three.)
MilesMk1 (9:15:49 PM): All right, I'll see you guys later.
Umbrafer (9:15:52 PM): (Mmk.)
Thematrian1 (9:15:57 PM): good night Matt, sorry about the fizzle
Umbrafer (9:15:57 PM): Take care. *Waves*
MilesMk1 (9:16:11 PM): Have a good one... See some of you Thursday.
Umbrafer (9:16:22 PM): Indeed.
MilesMk1 (9:16:28 PM): No problem... It's all Gedeon's fault. :-D
MilesMk1 (9:16:39 PM): God, thos smileys are hideous.
Thematrian1 (9:16:44 PM): heh
MilesMk1 (9:16:47 PM): 'Night.
Umbrafer (9:16:49 PM): Mmm, text smilies.
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Dragcrell (9:16:54 PM): *starts shineing up the steel bat*
Umbrafer (9:17:13 PM): Pah. Haven't you heard? You need bladed weapons against zombies!
Umbrafer (9:17:21 PM): Somehow destroying their skeletal structure fails to stop them.
Dragcrell (9:18:09 PM): >_> why would I use this on the zombies this is for Gedeon
Dragcrell (9:19:33 PM): and the last I checked when you blow the hell out of a zombie and spred there body parts over 3 meters of area usaly stops em as well
Umbrafer (9:20:12 PM): In Shadowrun, the zombie usually stops itself.
Dragcrell (9:20:19 PM): hehehehe
Umbrafer (9:20:42 PM): Maybe if you tipped it out of an airplane at low altitude…
Dragcrell (9:21:45 PM): na would just make a impact crater in the sidewalk or road 5 lbs of C-6 would do the trick to
Umbrafer (9:22:07 PM): The zombie, I mean, not the explosives.
Dragcrell (9:22:20 PM): to=tho
Dragcrell (9:23:29 PM): or you could sic some starved dogs on it :-D
Umbrafer (9:24:01 PM): Few dogs are starved enough for that.
Thematrian1 (9:24:14 PM): depends how long it's been around
Thematrian1 (9:24:17 PM): the zombie, that is
Umbrafer (9:24:38 PM): Incidentally, we should answer these questions once and for all.
Umbrafer (9:24:43 PM): How large is your average riot van?
Thematrian1 (9:24:49 PM): yeah
Thematrian1 (9:24:56 PM): and how does van armor work from the inside?
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Umbrafer (9:26:27 PM): I guess he didn't want to play "figure out the rules".
Thematrian1 (9:26:46 PM): it's not my favorite game either, but I don't want to have to work it out over the board, if you know what I mean
Umbrafer (9:27:00 PM): Yeah.
Umbrafer (9:27:34 PM): Incidentally, I did find one important rule that I had apparently missed. Or maybe I'd originally known it, but it never came up so I forgot it.
Thematrian1 (9:27:36 PM): ?
Umbrafer (9:28:03 PM): And that is, when firing at passengers of a vehicle, only half vehicle armor applies but the vehicle takes no damage.
Umbrafer (9:28:23 PM): So I may have an incentive to get more armor. Or maybe not, as nearly everyone would take blindfire penalties to hit.
Umbrafer (9:28:32 PM): Which leads to another question:
Thematrian1 (9:28:44 PM): wait, what?
Thematrian1 (9:28:51 PM): argh
Thematrian1 (9:28:53 PM): how weird
Umbrafer (9:28:58 PM): Not necessarily
Thematrian1 (9:29:01 PM): I guess that's what's meant by shooting the windows?
Umbrafer (9:29:11 PM): Well
Umbrafer (9:29:27 PM): I'm not sure if it's an indication that the windows are a weak spot (which they should be, I suppose)
Umbrafer (9:29:51 PM): Or just an indication that it's a lot easier to get through the armor than it is to get through the armor and still be able to meaningfully damage the metal workings within
Umbrafer (9:30:02 PM): But I suppose that's still an important question to answer
Umbrafer (9:30:14 PM): In canon SR, there's no reason why vehicles can't be built windowless
Umbrafer (9:31:06 PM): The Boomer is one such design. The car that gets shot up in the first Ghost in the Shell is another. If the first explanation is correct, these should logically not suffer that penalty.
Thematrian1 (9:31:49 PM): yeah. But there's no way for the passengers to make perception tests either. Anything that spoofs the vehicle sensors will blind everyone inside
Umbrafer (9:31:56 PM): That's true.
Umbrafer (9:31:58 PM): Well
Umbrafer (9:32:03 PM): Not necessarily
Thematrian1 (9:32:08 PM): ah?
Umbrafer (9:32:32 PM): Fiberoptic connections, as per the security systems in SotA:2063 but probably an order of magnitude cheaper because they only have to be inches long.
Umbrafer (9:32:46 PM): Pipe the real light inside, but not necessarily in a straight line
Thematrian1 (9:32:55 PM): ah
Thematrian1 (9:32:59 PM): yeah, that'd work
Umbrafer (9:34:01 PM): But yeah. I think the easiest question to answer is "how large is a typical riot van".
Umbrafer (9:34:12 PM): I'm not sure. Any idea?
Thematrian1 (9:35:32 PM): seems like it should be online
Umbrafer (9:35:49 PM): I've searched, but my google-fu has apparently grown weak.
Thematrian1 (9:37:05 PM): it's a van
Thematrian1 (9:37:21 PM): uh
Thematrian1 (9:37:23 PM): hm
Umbrafer (9:39:00 PM): http://www.autoweb.com
Umbrafer (9:39:11 PM): Hm.
Thematrian1 (9:39:13 PM): yeah, isn't it weird?
Umbrafer (9:39:17 PM): content/research/vir/index.cfm/vehicle_number_int/1017712/Action/StandardFeatures
Thematrian1 (9:39:22 PM): hm
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