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CirclMastr (8:38:20 PM): Huzzah and suchlike
MilesMk1 (8:38:58 PM): Hey.
Umbrafer (8:39:06 PM): Yarr.
Umbrafer (8:39:21 PM): So the bad news: Seiler probably won't be here for another half-hour or so.
Umbrafer (8:39:45 PM): The good news: if anyone has stuff they want to buy, contacts they want to abuse, or whatever, we can still do that while waiting.
CirclMastr (8:40:10 PM): Glitch could berate people for a discounted rigger meeting.
MilesMk1 (8:41:22 PM): I think I already agreed to pay...
MilesMk1 (8:41:32 PM): Might be too late at this point.
Umbrafer (8:41:48 PM): We've got time on our hands, you can reopen negotiations if you want.
Umbrafer (8:42:50 PM): I will warn you, though, that any CreepwoodRunning will be met with summary execution.
CirclMastr (8:43:12 PM): CreepwoodRunning?
Umbrafer (8:43:34 PM): http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=8834&st=0
Umbrafer (8:43:40 PM): Someone brought back an old thread.
Umbrafer (8:43:44 PM): Well
Umbrafer (8:43:51 PM): Brought it up again, that is
MilesMk1 (8:46:10 PM): Oh, that moron.
Umbrafer (8:46:25 PM): Yeah, him.
Umbrafer (8:46:55 PM): At least he found out if anyone really roleplays anymore.
MilesMk1 (8:47:21 PM): Ooh... We should have our characters rape and murder some elf kids. That'd be so original...
MilesMk1 (8:47:23 PM): :)
Umbrafer (8:47:40 PM): Oh man. I'd forgotten about that part
MilesMk1 (8:47:54 PM): Sorry...
CirclMastr (8:48:06 PM): Uh
MilesMk1 (8:48:11 PM): In more palatable news, I managed to upgrade my computer without breaking it. Much.
Umbrafer (8:48:33 PM): Do tell?
CirclMastr (8:48:33 PM): My computer needs more RAM.
MilesMk1 (8:48:45 PM): I got a new video card, and got it installed.
CirclMastr (8:48:53 PM): What kind?
MilesMk1 (8:49:15 PM): It went ok, but not perfectly... A BFG GeForce 7800GS 256MB.
MilesMk1 (8:49:38 PM): The AGP one, since my PC doesn't do PCI Express and I didn't want to upgrade the motherboard as well.
CirclMastr (8:50:01 PM): *envy*
MilesMk1 (8:50:06 PM): You know that part of the AGP slot that the hook-like protrusion on the bottom of the card, by the connector, goes into?
MilesMk1 (8:50:29 PM): (Newegg has some very reasonably priced ones in that general area...)
MilesMk1 (8:50:54 PM): That you have no way of knowing exists if you never saw an AGP slot without a card in it?
CirclMastr (8:51:03 PM): (I have no idea if my motherboard has PCI Express or not. It SHOULD, since it's got a dual core processor in it...)
Umbrafer (8:51:03 PM): Hehehe
MilesMk1 (8:51:25 PM): Well, my AGP slot doesn't have it anymore.
Umbrafer (8:51:38 PM): (Whatever the Windows equivalent of System Profiler is should…) Oh dear.
CirclMastr (8:51:43 PM): ....
CirclMastr (8:51:49 PM): That's some severe damage.
Umbrafer (8:52:00 PM): Well, it apparently all still works
MilesMk1 (8:52:03 PM): Well, not really - it was just plastic...
Umbrafer (8:52:06 PM): Based on the fact that he's here talking to us
MilesMk1 (8:52:26 PM): I think it's just meant to hold the card in place better...
Umbrafer (8:52:34 PM): I've been a laptop user for so long I've started to forget that you can upgrade things other than RAM, hard drive, and occasionally battery.
MilesMk1 (8:52:51 PM): But, yeah, I was really glad I broke that, instead of pulling the whole AGP connecter off the mobo...
MilesMk1 (8:54:16 PM): I'm actually fairly decent with stuff like this most of the time, but I've only replaced old-style PCI card in the past, and was used to them getting a bit stuck...
Umbrafer (8:54:35 PM): Hey, at least you didn't nearly erase your hard drive four times in one afternoon.
MilesMk1 (8:54:38 PM): BTW, if you have a dual-core processor, then, yeah, you ought to have a PCI-express motherboard.
MilesMk1 (8:55:02 PM): And there's some amazing video cards out there.
Umbrafer (8:55:10 PM): Ever since then, I've learned to triple-check the jumper settings before booting. I miss SCSI.
CirclMastr (8:55:18 PM): I've got a Radeon 9500 Pro 128 right now, which is surprisingly ancient for not having it very long...
MilesMk1 (8:55:23 PM): I like the one I got, but when I think of some of the 7900GTX models...
MilesMk1 (8:56:50 PM): I had a GeForce 5950 Ultra 256... This huge, dual-slot monster, with copper tubing leading to secondary heat sinks for better dissipation, or something.
Umbrafer (8:57:00 PM): Hehehe
MilesMk1 (8:57:18 PM): The one I replaced it with is less than half the size and weight, and has several times the processing capability.
CirclMastr (8:57:50 PM): Can I have your old card? It sounds better than mine.
Umbrafer (8:57:53 PM): You should see some of the high-end ones. And by high-end I don't mean high-end gaming (which are pretty crazy themselves), I mean the $10k and up kinds you see in graphics workstations
MilesMk1 (8:58:00 PM): Uh... Sure?
CirclMastr (8:58:11 PM): ...It's broken, isn't it?
MilesMk1 (8:58:27 PM): I don't think so. The card seemed to have made it out ok.
MilesMk1 (8:58:56 PM): I even managed to fit it into the packaging the new one came in, so I could ship it without it getting busted, probably.
CirclMastr (8:59:26 PM): Damn internet
CirclMastr (8:59:41 PM): ....*Pokes chat*
MilesMk1 (8:59:42 PM): Don't know if I could find any of the installation CDs, but I'm sure you could just download Nvidia drivers.
MilesMk1 (9:00:22 PM): So, if you want it...
CirclMastr (9:00:26 PM): I'm assuming it's better than a Radeon 9500 Pro. I have no idea.
CirclMastr (9:00:46 PM): And my techmonkey friend isn't online...
MilesMk1 (9:00:51 PM): Is Radeon 9500 Pro < Radeon 9800 256MB?
CirclMastr (9:01:02 PM): No.
CirclMastr (9:01:05 PM): Clearly.
MilesMk1 (9:01:30 PM): Wait.. It is worse, or not?
Umbrafer (9:01:42 PM): (Did you only have one AGP slot?)
MilesMk1 (9:01:58 PM): I'm asking, because when I got mine, it was basically in a dead-heat vs. the 9800.
MilesMk1 (9:02:03 PM): Yeah, I did.
Umbrafer (9:02:24 PM): Ah well. Multiple monitors are fun, especially when you don't have to sac performance to get them.
CirclMastr (9:02:24 PM): A Radeon 9500 < Radeon 9800
MilesMk1 (9:03:10 PM): Ok.
MilesMk1 (9:04:32 PM): So figure out if you want it, and how we can arrange shipping.
CirclMastr (9:05:03 PM): I'm desperately looking on Nvidia's website for info on it
CirclMastr (9:05:52 PM): I'm 99% sure I want it.
Umbrafer (9:06:15 PM): The 9500 Pro supposedly does 88.7 FPS on Q3 1600x1200, while the 5950 supposedly gets 281.1—no idea how close the other settings are.
Umbrafer (9:07:00 PM): (Dave, how many AGP slots do you have?)
CirclMastr (9:07:10 PM): (I think one, I'm not sure)
Umbrafer (9:07:43 PM): (Damn it, why do they have to only put one slot in everywhere? I can't wait for the technologies to get back to being the same.)
CirclMastr (9:08:13 PM): (One)
CirclMastr (9:09:06 PM): The fact that I can even find the 5950 on Nvidia's site while ATI has decided mine doesn't deserve anything but a mention that it's no longer supported, speaks volumes for which is better.
CirclMastr (9:10:02 PM): So yeah, if you could just find out how much it would cost to ship I'll gladly take it off your hands.
Umbrafer (9:11:06 PM): Ok, who the hell makes a graphics card review and doesn't benchmark against Quake 3?
Umbrafer (9:11:13 PM): (Matt, out of interest, what do you usually play?)
MilesMk1 (9:11:29 PM): BTW, if you care, this is it, exactly: http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/Images/383_bfg5950-1.jpg
MilesMk1 (9:12:04 PM): (Half-Life 2... Day of Defeat... Splinter Cell... Why?)
CirclMastr (9:12:21 PM): Metal-y
MilesMk1 (9:12:24 PM): (The only FPS I wasn't able to run, and get good performance at was FEAR.)
Umbrafer (9:12:25 PM): (Just curious.)
Umbrafer (9:13:04 PM): (As long as you can ignore the name, FEAR is extremely worth playing. It is thus far the only game I have broken my rule against buying games for Windows for.)
CirclMastr (9:13:09 PM): I'm upgrading RAM to get Oblivion, and I think replacing my card with this one would be a boon as well.
MilesMk1 (9:13:21 PM): Ah...
MilesMk1 (9:13:40 PM): See, the reason I upgraded was because of Oblivion.
Umbrafer (9:13:46 PM): Hehehe
CirclMastr (9:13:48 PM): Uh oh
MilesMk1 (9:13:50 PM): Don't know if that'll change your plans...
Umbrafer (9:14:01 PM): Well, what were you trying to run it at?
CirclMastr (9:14:01 PM): Well, I can't afford a NEW video card...
Umbrafer (9:14:06 PM): I mean
Umbrafer (9:14:09 PM): No one likes to hear it
Umbrafer (9:14:26 PM): But those magic three words, "640x480", will solve a /lot/ of performance issues.
MilesMk1 (9:14:31 PM): Oblivion was playable with this one, at 800x600, but it took a big hit on all the bells-and whistles that make it look so nice.
CirclMastr (9:14:39 PM): D'oh
CirclMastr (9:14:51 PM): I usually play in 800x600 or 1024x760
CirclMastr (9:15:03 PM): ( http://www.buyaib.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=675 Mmm, cheap RAM...)
Umbrafer (9:15:21 PM): I usually play in 1440x960, but now and then a game comes along and you just have to bite the bullet.
MilesMk1 (9:15:58 PM): I usually run at 1024x768.
Umbrafer (9:16:32 PM): I should send you a copy of Myth or something.
Umbrafer (9:16:41 PM): Let all that GPU power go to near-total waste ;)
MilesMk1 (9:17:02 PM): If I have power to spare at that point, I'd rather use it for AA, shaders, what not.
CirclMastr (9:17:05 PM): I want Mazz VI to come out, to take out all the D&D bullshit they added.
MilesMk1 (9:17:15 PM): Mazz VI?
CirclMastr (9:17:29 PM): The next release of Mazz that exists only in my mind.
Umbrafer (9:17:56 PM): Speaking of wasted GPU power, do either of you have any suggestions for changed rules/settings/etc. for the next FreeCiv game? Whether or not you're interested in joining, I'd like your input.
CirclMastr (9:18:24 PM): BAN /AWAY
Umbrafer (9:18:32 PM): (Did you ever play the Myth series of games?)
Umbrafer (9:18:34 PM): Er, why?
Umbrafer (9:18:39 PM): I mean
MilesMk1 (9:18:44 PM): Hehe... Because the computer ruins everything. ;)
Umbrafer (9:18:46 PM): It's not like we're going to be forcing anyone /away
CirclMastr (9:18:55 PM): The AI fucked over my civ and I more or less completely lost interest in playing it after that.
MilesMk1 (9:19:06 PM): (I played one, some time long, long ago. Think it was the first one.)
Umbrafer (9:19:07 PM): So really, the only reason someone would end up /away is if they chose it—and this time we know the consequences
Umbrafer (9:19:44 PM): I mean
Umbrafer (9:19:50 PM): I could see banning it if it was too /good/
MilesMk1 (9:19:55 PM): (The fact that the missions were basically puzzles, requiring constant repetition, and the level of micromanagement required, drove me away...)
Umbrafer (9:20:07 PM): (Pah ;) )
MilesMk1 (9:20:37 PM): (Pah... :P I, unlike you, had other games available to me during that period. :))
CirclMastr (9:21:10 PM): Hehe
MilesMk1 (9:21:23 PM): You seem to have hit on most of the needed changes... Smaller map, for faster play.
MilesMk1 (9:21:33 PM): I'd also suggest bigger land masses.
CirclMastr (9:21:43 PM): No ocean!
CirclMastr (9:21:48 PM): Just massive peasant combat!
Umbrafer (9:21:53 PM): *Nods* That's planned. We're going from 25% land to 35% land, we might go a bit further.
MilesMk1 (9:22:00 PM): And perhaps do something to make the climate/terrain a bit more even, at the expense of verisimilitude.
Umbrafer (9:22:02 PM): I don't think we'll go pangea, though Seiler's voting for it too.
Umbrafer (9:22:21 PM): Yeah, I'll consider All World Temperate.
MilesMk1 (9:22:53 PM): Because I'd have lost anyway (this being my first time), but I've seen the places the Sioux were living, and compared to my land, it was all milk and honey.
Umbrafer (9:23:10 PM): Yeah
MilesMk1 (9:23:11 PM): Half of the available land I had was taken up by mountain or ice.
MilesMk1 (9:23:22 PM): About a third of the rest was tundra.
Umbrafer (9:23:26 PM): I should show you where our Great Russian Hegemony started from, though
Umbrafer (9:23:40 PM): It wasn't as bad as yours, we even had some grasslands to the south
CirclMastr (9:23:55 PM): You had tech out the wazoo
MilesMk1 (9:24:00 PM): If it hadn't been for fishing, I'd have never been able to expand at all.
CirclMastr (9:24:06 PM): Mr. "Cheapass Wonder Builder"
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MilesMk1 (9:24:13 PM): No damn food...
MilesMk1 (9:24:17 PM): Evening?
Umbrafer (9:24:40 PM): Actually, the game entirely hinged on Marco Polo's Expedition.
Saucetenuto (9:24:41 PM): I'm David/Thematrian1, I just can't log in under that name for whatever reason...
Umbrafer (9:24:46 PM): Embassy, rather.
MilesMk1 (9:25:00 PM): Oh, hey.
CirclMastr (9:25:13 PM): Arg, can I be back in like, 20? You all can renegotiate
Saucetenuto (9:25:15 PM): I have to agree with that analysis. Trade catapulted Jon into first place by such a margin that he probably couldn't have lost
Umbrafer (9:25:26 PM): Not quite
Umbrafer (9:25:40 PM): If you'd declared war on me pretty much the instant I built it, I think you could have stopped me
Umbrafer (9:25:45 PM): But yeah, after that…
Saucetenuto (9:25:49 PM): No, I had like two boats
MilesMk1 (9:26:00 PM): I don't know how long I'm going to be able to last, actually...
Saucetenuto (9:26:04 PM): If I'd already had an invasion ready...no, I still don't so
Saucetenuto (9:26:10 PM): oh, I guess we'd better do SR stuff then
MilesMk1 (9:26:30 PM): Perhaps even if I had to go, you could still introduce Dave's character, so we can jump right into play next time?
Umbrafer (9:26:33 PM): When we last left off, Glitch had bought himself a Rigger.
MilesMk1 (9:26:39 PM): ...right.
MilesMk1 (9:26:48 PM): And I was told where to meet it, right?
Saucetenuto (9:26:48 PM): ah, yes
Umbrafer (9:27:15 PM): (Sure. You think you can hold out another half-hour? If you're hurting there's no need to say yes.)
MilesMk1 (9:27:49 PM): (Sure, I can do that.)
MilesMk1 (9:28:17 PM): I show up to the meet with a collar and a bag of food pellets.
Umbrafer (9:29:40 PM): You were indeed given a location to meet it. It rolls over, exposing its belly when you enter the room.
Saucetenuto (9:29:52 PM): uh...uh?
MilesMk1 (9:30:24 PM): (The "bought himself a rigger" comment, spiraling out of control.)
MilesMk1 (9:30:49 PM): Ok, so, do we do the meet now, or once Dave gets back?
Umbrafer (9:30:49 PM): (It does that.) Are you two doing anything else, whether before or after meeting with the Rigger?
MilesMk1 (9:31:05 PM): Well, I'll let Gem know about the meeting, of course.
Umbrafer (9:31:08 PM): I figure the actual meet should happen once Dave gets back. Feel free to do stuff that would occur after the meet, though.
MilesMk1 (9:31:40 PM): I'd also like to ask for Gem's help with replacing some of the ammo I used up.
MilesMk1 (9:32:07 PM): And, hmm... I think there was the case with funny bits / street doc thing, that Gem was planning?
Umbrafer (9:32:15 PM): Yes indeed.
Umbrafer (9:32:31 PM): Gem's meeting with the doc to discuss fleshy bits?
MilesMk1 (9:32:43 PM): That can definitely be done without me being conscious, or Dave being present. ;)
Umbrafer (9:32:51 PM): ("Dear Editor, I have become unstuck in time…")
Umbrafer (9:32:55 PM): True indeed.
Umbrafer (9:32:57 PM): Well
Umbrafer (9:33:09 PM): Mostly I'm hoping Dave will return during the time you're still here so we can wrap that up
Umbrafer (9:33:18 PM): Though…
Umbrafer (9:33:29 PM): I suppose you could potentially send Gem to do the facework
Umbrafer (9:33:55 PM): So yeah. Your call, if you want you can just buy ammo then go get some sleep.
Saucetenuto (9:33:57 PM): (Ok, it's not flashing chat windows either. SO FULL OF HATE)
MilesMk1 (9:34:25 PM): Well, if I don't make it, we could assume Glitch and Gem go together, but Glitch is just very quiet. ;)
Umbrafer (9:35:01 PM): Put it this way. Anything either of you want to do that absolutely requires Glitch, do it now.
Umbrafer (9:35:14 PM): Then you can collapse when you feel the need, be that before or after the meet goes down.
Saucetenuto (9:35:17 PM): I want to slot the OMC with Glitch in the room
MilesMk1 (9:35:24 PM): Ok.
MilesMk1 (9:35:43 PM): I slot Biotech, and get ready to recussitate if needed.
Saucetenuto (9:35:45 PM): "The chip slot is here, at the base of my neck" ::shows him:: "If you smell burning flesh, please unjack me."
Umbrafer (9:35:54 PM): Oh man. While I through my notes, where did you get this one?
Umbrafer (9:36:10 PM): (You know things are wrong when a search for "OMC" gets you this many hits)
Saucetenuto (9:36:12 PM): found it lying on the ground with a double 27 perception roll or some similar ridiculousness
Saucetenuto (9:36:23 PM): found a shitpistol in the same area
Saucetenuto (9:36:25 PM): uh
Saucetenuto (9:36:27 PM): shotpistol
Umbrafer (9:36:52 PM): (Where was this, though? I unfortunately did not record the hugeness of your perception roll.)
MilesMk1 (9:38:05 PM): (I just checked, and I don't have it recorded.)
Saucetenuto (9:38:12 PM): (Um. In the woods, near some bloody clothes, on the power station run)
Saucetenuto (9:38:30 PM): (We thought it belonged to the people who set all those explosives)
Umbrafer (9:38:44 PM): !
Umbrafer (9:39:01 PM): That explains the problem, I'm not even looking at the right set of notes. Someday
Umbrafer (9:39:05 PM): Someday, I will learn.
Umbrafer (9:40:41 PM): Anticlimactic.
Umbrafer (9:40:50 PM): The OMC does not burn your brain it.
Umbrafer (9:40:51 PM): *out
Saucetenuto (9:40:59 PM): good times
Saucetenuto (9:41:03 PM): "Okay, so far so good..."
Umbrafer (9:41:37 PM): It also, however, doesn't give you anything useful. It appears to be encrypted.
Saucetenuto (9:42:39 PM): Gem slumps a bit. "Do you have a top of the line decryption program lying around?"
MilesMk1 (9:43:24 PM): "Uh... No, not really."
MilesMk1 (9:43:41 PM): (There's nothing we can do without one?)
Saucetenuto (9:43:56 PM): "I'll have to try and rewrite mine, then. It'll take a few days."
Saucetenuto (9:44:16 PM): "Want to go halves on buying one, if I can find it fast enough? This stuff is probably time sensitive..."
MilesMk1 (9:45:35 PM): "What kind of price range are we looking at?"
MilesMk1 (9:45:57 PM): "Unless it's something way out there, sure - it could be useful down the line, too."
Saucetenuto (9:46:11 PM): (Bookninja AWAY!)
Umbrafer (9:46:28 PM): (Hm?)
Umbrafer (9:47:02 PM): (You can try to decrypt something without a Decryption program, it's just that failing risks nuking the data.)
Saucetenuto (9:48:14 PM): "About ten for a good one, after markup. They're not hard to write, it just takes time."
MilesMk1 (9:48:57 PM): "All right."
Saucetenuto (9:49:43 PM): I pick up the phone, avail is 2/7 days after mods, in deference to our time constraints, here's just the roll:
Saucetenuto (9:49:46 PM): Saucetenuto rolled 6 6-sided dice: 1 4 1 4 4 2
Umbrafer (9:50:37 PM): "I'll have it for you in about two and a half days."
Saucetenuto (9:51:52 PM): "Thanks a bunch."
Saucetenuto (9:52:01 PM): (That was for rating 6, if my choice of price didn't give it away)
Umbrafer (9:52:10 PM): (I figured as much)
CirclMastr (9:53:21 PM): (Many many apologies all)
Saucetenuto (9:53:30 PM): Ok, the fleshy bits go to the doctor, Glitch goes to the rigger
Umbrafer (9:56:14 PM): Indeed.
MilesMk1 (9:57:38 PM): I think Gem goes to the Rigger too, unless the doc stuff happens at the same time?
Umbrafer (9:58:02 PM): The location is in one of the worse parts of Bellevue (not that that's saying /all/ that much)
Umbrafer (9:58:21 PM): It's across the lake from Redmond, which usually provides a buffer, but it's right near the Bridge to Nowhere.
Saucetenuto (9:58:32 PM): I think I'm out of glitch-requisite stuff
CirclMastr (9:58:37 PM): (Did y'all get a discount on me while I was gone?)
MilesMk1 (9:58:47 PM): In any case, I show up at the appropriate venue with/without Gem, as appropriate.
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MilesMk1 (9:58:49 PM): (Nah.)
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Umbrafer (9:59:20 PM): (Only full-price Rigger here)
MilesMk1 (10:00:04 PM): BTW, is this a building/business we're meeting at, or just a place, outdoors?
Umbrafer (10:00:21 PM): Business. Leo's Bar.
MilesMk1 (10:00:25 PM): (Sorry, don't actually know about Bellevue...)
MilesMk1 (10:00:38 PM): Ah, ok. Not wearing ruthenium, then. :)
Umbrafer (10:01:24 PM): Bellevue is generally an upscale part of town—nice, if relatively dense, suburbia and commercial districts.
Umbrafer (10:01:32 PM): B to AAA-rated, mostly B to A.
Umbrafer (10:01:45 PM): Its main failing is that it directly borders Redmond.
Umbrafer (10:01:58 PM): Needless to say, the places bordering Redmond slip rather further down.
Umbrafer (10:02:32 PM): The Bridge to Nowhere was a bridge being built to connect Redmond and Bellevue before the Crash
Umbrafer (10:02:50 PM): They'd almost finished it, everything but the on-ramp from Bellevue, when the Crash hit.
Umbrafer (10:02:55 PM): After that, no money left.
Umbrafer (10:03:36 PM): They demolished some of the bridge near Bellevue to make it harder for gangers to go over and take potshots at law-abiding citizens, but it didn't work too well. The area near the Bridge is one of the few lower-rated areas in Bellev
Umbrafer (10:03:38 PM): *ue
Umbrafer (10:04:31 PM): Leo's looks like a decent enough place—no graffiti, and only one visible bouncer is a Troll.
MilesMk1 (10:05:12 PM): Ok, I show up armed with my usual light weapons, wearing a sober designer clothes and an armored jacket.
MilesMk1 (10:05:30 PM): I. Hate. Typos.
MilesMk1 (10:05:46 PM): (also designer, the jacket)
Saucetenuto (10:05:53 PM): (Swanky)
MilesMk1 (10:06:06 PM): (Though not of the kind that screams "I am rich and lost, rob me!")
MilesMk1 (10:06:24 PM): (Yeah, I know. Actually spent several K on wardrobe at chargen.)
MilesMk1 (10:06:39 PM): (Might as well use it...)
MilesMk1 (10:07:15 PM): I walk in / try to walk in about 10 minutes early.
Umbrafer (10:08:10 PM): A well-dressed Glitch strolls into the bar. There's a guy at the prearranged booth reading a screamsheet. There's also a game of darts going on in the back that can't possibly be legal.
MilesMk1 (10:08:32 PM): Why is that? There's a gnome taped to the board, or something?
Umbrafer (10:09:16 PM): No, just these particular participants seem to be splitting the darts with successive throws. They're also standing quite some distance away. Probably cyberenhancement, if you had to guess.
MilesMk1 (10:09:37 PM): Or adepts.
MilesMk1 (10:09:48 PM): Well, I guess I won't try to enter...
Saucetenuto (10:09:58 PM): (Street Samurai meet & greet and darts night.)
MilesMk1 (10:10:06 PM): Though I do have an 8 in throwing with my skillwires...
Saucetenuto (10:10:22 PM): (Just like in everything else ;-)
Saucetenuto (10:10:37 PM): (Two more initiations, and I can upgrade mine.)
MilesMk1 (10:10:39 PM): I walk over to the appropriate table, and politely incline my head at the guy.
MilesMk1 (10:10:57 PM): Was I given a name?
Umbrafer (10:11:07 PM): Let's get a physical description on the new guy. I'm guessing you remember what Glitch looks like.
Umbrafer (10:11:09 PM): You were not.
CirclMastr (10:11:27 PM): (Doh)
Umbrafer (10:12:59 PM): (And so began a frantic search for the description?)
CirclMastr (10:13:03 PM): <- A relatively slim guy in his mid-20s with a pair of datajacks in his skull. Currently sitting down, but when he stands up he'll magically become 5'11". Dark brown hair and fairly street clothes, and a Secure Jacket
CirclMastr (10:13:19 PM): (Human, I should mention)
CirclMastr (10:14:07 PM): He also looks upo to return the nod. "Can you believe it? Five districts split and still the liberal yahoos think they're underprivileged."
MilesMk1 (10:14:07 PM): (Do you remember what Glitch looks like?)
CirclMastr (10:14:13 PM): (Not really)
Umbrafer (10:16:00 PM): Fringe members of the Technocratic party are calling for universal datajack installation. More moderate members of the party are trying to sweep them under the rug. Members of the Archconservatives are trying to make sure they get
Umbrafer (10:16:03 PM): as much air time as possible.
MilesMk1 (10:16:30 PM): Asian, apparently human, mid to late 20s, 5 feet tall but normally proportioned, looks like someone out of an ad for "You too can have 3% body fat in 6 weeks...".
MilesMk1 (10:16:57 PM): "Disgraceful."
MilesMk1 (10:17:15 PM): "I'm Glitch. A pleasure to meet you, Mr..."
CirclMastr (10:17:54 PM): "Kellhound. Most folks just call me Hound, though. You looking for a driver?"
MilesMk1 (10:18:24 PM): "Broadly speaking, yes."
Umbrafer (10:19:06 PM): (Also, for reference, Thomas Steele is still leading the polls.)
MilesMk1 (10:19:42 PM): "Though surveillance and support capabilities are something we're also interested in."
MilesMk1 (10:19:50 PM): "Naturally."
CirclMastr (10:19:51 PM): *motions to the seat across from me* "Come, sit, let's talk turkey."
MilesMk1 (10:19:58 PM): *sits down*
CirclMastr (10:20:14 PM): "You the face of the group, or is this a solo outfit?"
MilesMk1 (10:21:33 PM): "We're a two-person team, at the moment, and my specialty is actually intrusion and electronics, though I do branch out."
Saucetenuto (10:22:04 PM): (The face of the group is reading up on the all-father, who we may have accidentally released into the world yesterday)
CirclMastr (10:22:07 PM): *nods* "Looking for a third member, or a one-shot?"
MilesMk1 (10:23:20 PM): "A third - assuming we find out we can all work together, of course."
CirclMastr (10:24:02 PM): "Of course."
MilesMk1 (10:24:40 PM): "At the moment, we command fees that would come out to... let's say 35-40K each for moderately complex work, assuming a 3-man team?"
CirclMastr (10:25:13 PM): "Sounds good. I mostly do drone work, so you'd have to be unoffended if I didn't make a meat appearance among flying lead."
Saucetenuto (10:26:14 PM): Saucetenuto rolled 6 6-sided dice: 4 4 6 4 5 6
Saucetenuto (10:26:17 PM): Saucetenuto rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 6
Saucetenuto (10:26:20 PM): Saucetenuto rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Saucetenuto (10:26:23 PM): well, that was ok
MilesMk1 (10:26:45 PM): "We're looking for surveillance and heavy support - and transport, of course - and as long as the drones can provide it..."
CirclMastr (10:27:19 PM): "You bet." *takes the spider out of my pocket and sets it on the table*
Saucetenuto (10:28:02 PM): (Carrying spiders around on one shoulder is just your wyrd, Matt. Don't fight it)
CirclMastr (10:28:18 PM): (Not this spider, heh)
MilesMk1 (10:28:32 PM): "We usually try to approach our work in circumspect ways, and I have no trouble taking point then, but times come when you need the big guns... Ah, nice."
MilesMk1 (10:29:01 PM): "How's it set up?"
CirclMastr (10:29:27 PM): "Just a stock model, with one nasty little addition. Not the sort of companion that rides on your shoulder or anything."
MilesMk1 (10:30:20 PM): "Unless it was coated with ruthenium, I'd probably have to pass on it even if it were."
MilesMk1 (10:30:37 PM): "What'd the addition be?"
CirclMastr (10:30:54 PM): *shrugs and replaces it in my pocket* "If you swat it, it swats back. Ever see that old Predator movie?"
MilesMk1 (10:31:55 PM): "Actually, yes. I'm sort of partial to it."
MilesMk1 (10:32:20 PM): "A self-destruct mechanism?"
CirclMastr (10:32:20 PM): "Yeah. Boom." *makes explody motions with my hands*
MilesMk1 (10:32:39 PM): "Excellent..."
CirclMastr (10:33:14 PM): "Got some blimps for long-range recon, and a couple roto-drones for close support."
MilesMk1 (10:34:14 PM): "What about wheels? We're actually in a bit of a down-time right now - in the process of lining up new work - but have something on the horizon that might actually call for a talented driver. A perfect start, perhaps."
CirclMastr (10:34:45 PM): "A van I tweaked out pretty nicely, I think. Speaking of self-destruct mechanisms, what's the setup for expenses incurred on a job?"
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Saucetenuto (10:35:44 PM): (Wuh oh.)
Saucetenuto (10:38:15 PM): (I think we do it case by case.)
MilesMk1 (10:39:50 PM): "I suppose we really do it on a case by case basis - it's never been a major issue, with a small team."
MilesMk1 (10:40:47 PM): "While I have no objections to helping cover any serious damage incurred in the process of getting the job done, in general, I'd say it'd need to be treated the same as if I, for example, took a bullet in the lung, and needed
MilesMk1 (10:40:53 PM): medical care."
CirclMastr (10:41:06 PM): "I see. Well, the thing is, drones aren't cheap, and if I have to cover my own expenses then a job is probably a losing proposition."
CirclMastr (10:41:38 PM): "I'm not above that sort of thing. I mean, helping with medical expenses, not the bullet in the lung thing."
MilesMk1 (10:43:01 PM): "I understand... I'm not trying to be evasive, but I'm sure you know how this work tends to be... no contracts, no health plans."
MilesMk1 (10:43:06 PM): "Let me put it this way."
MilesMk1 (10:43:49 PM): "If we find out that we can work well together, we'd certainly be willing to help cover any expenses needed to get the job done, since it'd only be in our best interest."
CirclMastr (10:44:22 PM): *nods* "Sounds fair."
MilesMk1 (10:44:45 PM): "Though I'd hope you're only thinking of losing drones as a worst-case scenario." *smiles*
CirclMastr (10:45:38 PM): "Obviously. But even just repairs can get pricy."
MilesMk1 (10:45:46 PM): "I understand."
CirclMastr (10:46:26 PM): "Just as an aside, do you guys ever do any out-of-town jobs? Y'know, outside the urban areas?"
MilesMk1 (10:47:31 PM): "I suppose it depends on how you'd define Redmond... We have not, but it's certainly not something we'd rule out. We're fairly adaptable."
CirclMastr (10:47:55 PM): *nods a bit* "Alright."
MilesMk1 (10:50:05 PM): "Why do you ask?"
CirclMastr (10:50:30 PM): "Eh, long story. Don't worry about it."
MilesMk1 (10:51:18 PM): "All right. Shall I get in touch with you once we know more about the work we're looking at, then?"
MilesMk1 (10:51:41 PM): (Glitch might not necessarily want to end it right there, but I need to turn into a pumpkin.:))
Saucetenuto (10:51:59 PM): (Ok, sleep well. Give him some of my contact info if you want)
CirclMastr (10:52:02 PM): (Already?)
Saucetenuto (10:52:13 PM): (It's nearly 11 EST)
CirclMastr (10:52:38 PM): (Usually he doesn't turn into a pumpkin until midnight)
Umbrafer (10:53:12 PM): (He ails. The breath of plague is upon him.)
CirclMastr (10:53:15 PM): (Ow)
MilesMk1 (10:53:20 PM): Right... I'll also give you the info you'll need to contact Gem.
MilesMk1 (10:53:58 PM): (Actually, I'm just exhausted, and short on sleep.)
Umbrafer (10:54:37 PM): (Ah, fair enough)
CirclMastr (10:54:52 PM): (Sleep well, then)
MilesMk1 (10:55:20 PM): (It's been a shitty week - Dave, let me know what you decide with the video card. Though if you really want to enjoy Oblivion, I'd reccommend biting the bullet and upgrading to something newer...)
CirclMastr (10:55:32 PM): (As if I could afford it...)
CirclMastr (10:55:49 PM): So.... *contacts Gem*
Saucetenuto (10:55:59 PM): ::looks up from her corpse::
Saucetenuto (10:56:04 PM): "Good afternoon?"
MilesMk1 (10:56:16 PM): See you guys next week. *waves*
CirclMastr (10:56:31 PM): (I was thinking phone or radio or something. I have no idea where Gem actually is)
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Saucetenuto (10:56:52 PM): (Yeah, she answered her phone)
CirclMastr (10:56:59 PM): (Oh)
Saucetenuto (10:57:00 PM): (One of her phones)
Saucetenuto (10:57:02 PM): (She has about 20)
CirclMastr (10:57:05 PM): "Is this Gem?"
Saucetenuto (10:57:26 PM): "Are you a friend of Glitch's?"
CirclMastr (10:58:06 PM): "Yeah, just talked to him about joining your little organization. Name's Kellhound, apparently you're short a rigger."
Saucetenuto (10:59:29 PM): "I'm afraid so. Would you like to meet?"
CirclMastr (10:59:41 PM): "Sure. Name the place."
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Umbrafer (11:02:33 PM): (Hmm…)
CirclMastr (11:02:47 PM): (Of course)
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Saucetenuto (11:03:12 PM): I do so, trying to pick a place that's fairly downscale without being dangerous to enter alone.
Umbrafer (11:04:03 PM): Renton fits the bill
CirclMastr (11:04:36 PM): *meets Gem wherever it is*
Saucetenuto (11:04:38 PM): Then I name it, and head on over
Saucetenuto (11:04:57 PM): After exchanging a rough description
Umbrafer (11:06:31 PM): You meet at a bar in Renton. The factory workers congregating there give you dirty looks before going back to their beers.
Saucetenuto (11:07:13 PM): Give me dirty looks? Hmph. I restrain myself.
CirclMastr (11:07:28 PM): "Hey, Gem?"
Saucetenuto (11:07:55 PM): "Hound. A pleasure." I offer him my hand.
Umbrafer (11:08:12 PM): Well, give anyone who doesn't look like a factory worker dirty looks.
CirclMastr (11:08:31 PM): *shakes it, and lets her sit first* "Glitch told me you two are just hitting a patch of downtime?"
Saucetenuto (11:09:27 PM): "Yeah. We've had a busy few weeks, and the J says he might have more coming, so we're looking at expanding our capabilities a bit."
Saucetenuto (11:10:02 PM): "Spying, shadowing, heavy weapons, that sort of thing." Small smile.
CirclMastr (11:10:25 PM): "Oh, I don't think anyone has me beat for heavy weapons." *grins*
Saucetenuto (11:11:38 PM): "So long as they're not made of lead."
CirclMastr (11:12:07 PM): "....I'm... not one hundred percent sure what you mean by that, but alright."
Saucetenuto (11:12:28 PM): ::sitting, intensifying my focus::
Saucetenuto (11:12:40 PM): "I don't know how well Glitch briefed you, but I handle most of the public relations for our little group, along with anything magical that comes up."
CirclMastr (11:13:08 PM): "Ah, I see."
Saucetenuto (11:14:48 PM): "I'm originally from the CFS; I only got here a few months ago." Gem is trying to invite a like reply without explicitly requesting one.
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CirclMastr (11:18:01 PM): *chuckles* "No need to be so politic about it, if you want info on me, just ask."
Saucetenuto (11:18:23 PM): Shrug, smile. "Force of habit. Tell me a little about yourself..."
CirclMastr (11:19:24 PM): "Born and raised here. Been a rigger my whole shadow-career. Interests include politics and ancient depictions of giant machines." *grins*
Saucetenuto (11:19:55 PM): "Ancient depictions of giant machines?"
CirclMastr (11:20:44 PM): "In old movies and video games and the like."
CirclMastr (11:20:56 PM): "It's how I became interested in rigging, in fact."
Saucetenuto (11:21:15 PM): Intruiged: "Go on..."
CirclMastr (11:22:04 PM): "Well..." *lowers voice to a rough whisper* "It's sort of a secret project, very hush-hush. Not the sort of thing I tell people about until I get to know them."
Saucetenuto (11:22:51 PM): Eyebrows up: "Am I likely to be killed for knowing about it?"
CirclMastr (11:23:09 PM): *chuckles* "Nah."
CirclMastr (11:23:27 PM): "But a runner can hardly be faulted for keeping some secrets."
Saucetenuto (11:24:44 PM): "It's our reason for being. What's the UCAS political scene like? I haven't really had time to pay attention."
CirclMastr (11:25:29 PM): "Idiotic. All politicians are morons, and most voters are sheep. Otherwise we wouldn't live in the world we live in, ne?"
CirclMastr (11:26:21 PM): "How about you? What brought you from CalFree up here?"
Saucetenuto (11:28:53 PM): She shakes her head. "Bad business. I lost my ship, my contacts, and most of my fake IDs. Lucky for me that human greed works the same way everywhere."
CirclMastr (11:29:31 PM): "Ouch. What kind of ship?"
Saucetenuto (11:33:17 PM): "The Ranatra Fusca. The finest fruit smuggler this world will ever see."
Saucetenuto (11:33:22 PM): ::wistful::
CirclMastr (11:34:11 PM): "Damn shame, that..." *pauses a bit* "Do you mind if I ask a personal question?"
Saucetenuto (11:34:57 PM): "I'll trade you."
Saucetenuto (11:35:06 PM): "No questions about your secret project, I promise."
CirclMastr (11:35:40 PM): "Alright.... Are you and Glitch, uh..." *interlocks fingers of both hands*
Saucetenuto (11:37:06 PM): "Heh, no. It's all professional. I don't usually date inside the biz; there are too many ways for it to end badly."
Saucetenuto (11:37:20 PM): ::gives him a few beats to comment or request elaboration::
CirclMastr (11:37:43 PM): "Okay, just wanted to get the lay of the land, is all. Seen too many awkward moments come from making assumptions."
Saucetenuto (11:39:02 PM): ::nod:: "Of course. My turn: why'd you get into the biz?"
CirclMastr (11:40:06 PM): "Again, politics. I didn't much fancy being a slave to a quasi-government corp who would rule my life the way leftist extremists can only dream of."
Saucetenuto (11:40:30 PM): Said kindly: "Waking up in the morning must suck."
CirclMastr (11:43:25 PM): *shrugs* "I don't mind my current lifestyle. Pays the bills, lets me live my life, keep my hobbies..."
Saucetenuto (11:43:44 PM): (If the conversation lags) "I like you, Hound, and I think we'll work well together. The next job is probably coming up soon, and we'll be sure to call on you."
CirclMastr (11:44:16 PM): "I look forward to it."
Saucetenuto (11:45:37 PM): ::warm goodbye, leave, take the bus to the gorcery store since I'm out and about anyway::
CirclMastr (11:48:23 PM): *heads to the shop, has a nice sit-down with the ol' oxy-acetaline torch and a giant metal leg*
Saucetenuto (11:51:14 PM): I think that covers my immediate needs. I have a few other items I'd like to track down, but that's all
Umbrafer (11:54:02 PM): Yeah, last actions and then we break. Next week, Stuff Outside the Team happens.
Saucetenuto (11:54:03 PM): The way my dice have been lately, now is probably a good time to try for the pony nuke
Umbrafer (11:54:08 PM): Hehehe
Saucetenuto (11:54:14 PM): or the Laes
Saucetenuto (11:54:29 PM): in fact, yeah, let's give the Laes a shot (if I know it exists - do I?)
CirclMastr (11:54:40 PM): (Psst, try to get a nuclear power plant!)
Umbrafer (11:54:41 PM): (Actually, that's a question.)
Saucetenuto (11:54:52 PM): (No way, we're stealing that)
Saucetenuto (11:55:08 PM): You know what, forget the nuke and the military-grade chemicals
Umbrafer (11:55:17 PM): Do you have any Intelligence (in the sense of the Great Game) or Tir-related knowledge skills?
Saucetenuto (11:55:25 PM): I want a tiny little agent with a tiny little search utility
Saucetenuto (11:55:29 PM): (No)
Saucetenuto (11:55:36 PM): (Glitch probably knows all about the stuff)
Umbrafer (11:55:42 PM): Tiny little agent, tiny little search utility. Check.
Umbrafer (11:55:43 PM): How tiny?
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Saucetenuto (11:59:39 PM): I dunno, how tiny can they be and still do their jobs?
Saucetenuto (12:00:09 AM): regardless:
Saucetenuto (12:00:11 AM): Saucetenuto rolled 6 6-sided dice: 1 2 5 2 6 2
Umbrafer (12:00:15 AM): Depends on how you define "do their jobs". If you mean just function at a basic level, 1-1 should be enough. Serious utility takes more.
Saucetenuto (12:00:15 AM): Saucetenuto rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Saucetenuto (12:00:19 AM): 1-1 is fine
Saucetenuto (12:00:28 AM): I just want something to sort results for me, the basics
Umbrafer (12:00:52 AM): Are you looking for a Frame or an Agent?
Umbrafer (12:01:00 AM): That sounds like Frame duty.
Saucetenuto (12:01:32 AM): (All I want is my -3 to search TNs ::weep:: )
Umbrafer (12:02:46 AM): (That'd be an Agent)
Saucetenuto (12:02:47 AM): Agent 1 it is, then
Saucetenuto (12:25:37 AM): programming:
Saucetenuto (12:25:40 AM): Saucetenuto rolled 6 6-sided dice: 1 6 4 5 3 1
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