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Thematrian1 (8:34:00 PM): good evening, gang
Umbrafer (8:34:11 PM): j0
Dragcrell (8:34:16 PM): good evening
MilesMk1 (8:35:13 PM): Good evening.
Thematrian1 (8:36:10 PM): when we left our heroes, I believe they'd just obliterated a bug with a flamethrower?
Umbrafer (8:36:36 PM): We had. And then shot at some bugs, one of which used a guided spear; I'd been firing through some desks, but no effect was clearly visible to us.
Umbrafer (8:36:41 PM): We were about to roll init.
Thematrian1 (8:36:42 PM): Those remaining had taken cover, you'd been fired upon by a peculiar ballistic spear
Thematrian1 (8:36:43 PM): yeah
MilesMk1 (8:36:48 PM): Obliterated that one, they took cover, I shot one more in the head and killed it.
Thematrian1 (8:36:51 PM): go ahead and do that , why don't you
Umbrafer (8:37:03 PM): Umbrafer rolled 4 6-sided dice: 6 6 2 2
MilesMk1 (8:37:15 PM): SC was climbing towards them on the ceiling.
MilesMk1 (8:37:19 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 3 6-sided dice: 6 2 5
Umbrafer (8:37:19 PM): 25
MilesMk1 (8:37:22 PM): 23
Dragcrell (8:38:13 PM): (insentive and its as moveing to them along the wall's, ceiling adn the floor and useing cover as I did)
Thematrian1 (8:38:28 PM): init, Shadow Cat?
Dragcrell (8:39:05 PM): lol have to get up the sheet here
MilesMk1 (8:39:23 PM): (insentive?)
Dragcrell (8:39:28 PM): Dragcrell rolled 4 6-sided dice: 2 4 3 3
Dragcrell (8:39:48 PM): 15
Thematrian1 (8:40:04 PM): excellent
Thematrian1 (8:40:09 PM): Alex, you're at the top of the order
Umbrafer (8:40:30 PM): Unusual ;)
Thematrian1 (8:40:39 PM): yeah, I know, try to cope with the shock
MilesMk1 (8:41:01 PM): (How'd you manage a Reaction of 3? Not that I'm judging, or anything, just curious...)
Thematrian1 (8:41:18 PM): (She's got some stun damage)
Umbrafer (8:41:23 PM): Let's see. At the bottom of the last pass, I'd returned to cover. Running Dude will reach the stairs approximately when?
Dragcrell (8:41:29 PM): (yep :P)
MilesMk1 (8:41:30 PM): (Ah.)
Thematrian1 (8:41:39 PM): 3 full Turns
Umbrafer (8:42:17 PM): Mmk. I'll rise to the ceiling and otherwise hang out for this pass.
Thematrian1 (8:42:36 PM): understood. Blake?
MilesMk1 (8:42:56 PM): I'll shoot the one I've been firing at...
MilesMk1 (8:43:12 PM): IIRC it was the one with the long-ish rifle.
MilesMk1 (8:43:17 PM): 6 round burst.
Umbrafer (8:43:22 PM): Hadn't he retreated to cover?
Thematrian1 (8:43:23 PM): go for it
MilesMk1 (8:43:25 PM): /roll-dice 8
MilesMk1 (8:43:29 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 8 6-sided dice: 1 2 6 3 2 1 1 6
MilesMk1 (8:43:35 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 1 1
MilesMk1 (8:43:38 PM): Fuck.
Thematrian1 (8:43:44 PM): He had to shoot at Blake, I think he's still up...not that it matters after mods
Thematrian1 (8:44:00 PM): on the plus side, their cover is starting to lose structural integrity
Umbrafer (8:44:04 PM): Ah, fair enow.
MilesMk1 (8:44:05 PM): Actually... 5-2+4 is... 7?
Umbrafer (8:44:14 PM): I think so
MilesMk1 (8:44:34 PM): So unless I have some mod besides their cover, I think that's 2 hits?
Umbrafer (8:44:44 PM): "Successes", please ;)
Thematrian1 (8:45:00 PM): My notes have your TN as 8, but don't say why. The light's good, no weird magical drek...yeah, ok, 7. Two successes.
Thematrian1 (8:45:12 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 6 1 1 2 6 3
Thematrian1 (8:45:17 PM): But he ducks.
MilesMk1 (8:45:23 PM): Lucky son of a...
MilesMk1 (8:45:48 PM): (Why, is "hits" the SR4 term, or something?)
Thematrian1 (8:45:50 PM): the second buggy being ducks behind the table
Thematrian1 (8:45:52 PM): (Yes)
Thematrian1 (8:46:20 PM): Shadow Cat, your action
Thematrian1 (8:46:33 PM): You were sixty meters from the bugs and closing, last Turn.
Dragcrell (8:46:42 PM): I just keep moveing at them as I have been
Thematrian1 (8:46:47 PM): 12 meters?
MilesMk1 (8:46:57 PM): (BTW, is anyone familiar with something called Burning Wheel, and its sci-fi offshoot, Burning Empires?)
Thematrian1 (8:47:03 PM): (No)
Umbrafer (8:47:50 PM): (The name rings a bell, but I'm not familiar with it)
Thematrian1 (8:48:00 PM): This pass, you approach 7.5 meters
Dragcrell (8:48:29 PM): (only thaing I have heard of like that is the wheel of time books but not that one)
MilesMk1 (8:49:17 PM): (Indie RPGs. Burning Empires is officially the worst RPG I had ever played. Not because it misses its design goals, but because the design goals were fucking batshit.)
Thematrian1 (8:49:21 PM): Running Man runs some more. He trips over a stray chair, but catches his balance and plunges onward.
Thematrian1 (8:49:28 PM): (?)
Thematrian1 (8:50:49 PM): Alex, you're up
Umbrafer (8:51:28 PM): Pop out from cover, give two three-round bursts to different parts of the barricade. That's assuming no one's out of cover.
Thematrian1 (8:51:37 PM): No one is
Umbrafer (8:52:01 PM): I am, of course, trying for places I think there will be people, for what little that's worth.
Umbrafer (8:52:04 PM): Umbrafer rolled 6 6-sided dice: 1 3 3 6 2 3
Umbrafer (8:52:07 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Umbrafer (8:52:13 PM): Umbrafer rolled 6 6-sided dice: 4 5 2 5 1 3
MilesMk1 (8:52:31 PM): (How would you react if someone told you that during each session you'd play two "maneuvers" and during each maneuver you'd be limited to three "scenes", divided into "building" and "flavor"
Thematrian1 (8:52:32 PM): yeah, the table was totally not meant to absorb this kind of punishment. Another round or two of that and it will no longer qualify ascover.
Umbrafer (8:52:46 PM): (TN = 4-2+4+8=14, unless I miscount)
Umbrafer (8:53:01 PM): (I'd wonder what they were talking about.)
Dragcrell (8:53:11 PM): (sounds like a headacke O_o)
Umbrafer (8:53:12 PM): (I'd have a vague hunch it was bad, but not much more than that.)
MilesMk1 (8:53:19 PM): scenes, and that you'd get three die rolls / skill checks during that time to make things happen with, and if you used them up, everything else you'd do would be "flavor:")
Thematrian1 (8:53:50 PM): (I'd be very, very confused)
Umbrafer (8:54:15 PM): (I'd wonder if the plan was to play about sixteen sessions a meet or something)
Thematrian1 (8:54:15 PM): Ok, Blake, playsome SR instead ;-). Your action.
MilesMk1 (8:55:01 PM): I'll shoot the one behind the deteriorating cover... Or... No, I'll shoot 3 rounds through the cover, then 3 more, possibly no longer through cover.
MilesMk1 (8:55:18 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 3 6-sided dice: 2 4 6
MilesMk1 (8:55:23 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 3 6-sided dice: 1 4 2
MilesMk1 (8:55:28 PM): (Sorry about that...)
MilesMk1 (8:55:32 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 1 6-sided die: 1
MilesMk1 (8:55:36 PM): Doh. Another 7.
Thematrian1 (8:55:47 PM): (No worries)
MilesMk1 (8:55:49 PM): Second blast:
MilesMk1 (8:55:55 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 3 3 5 4 1 5
MilesMk1 (8:56:18 PM): If it matters, they're both 13S.
Thematrian1 (8:56:37 PM): Both shots hit the table, not quite uselessly. You can see movement behind the table, now; the remaining winged things are scooting away
MilesMk1 (8:56:54 PM): #Get 'em!#
Umbrafer (8:57:47 PM): (I should have gotten more MMG rounds.)
Thematrian1 (8:58:01 PM): (What're you down to?)
Thematrian1 (8:58:08 PM): Scoot scoot scoot go the bugs
Umbrafer (8:58:21 PM): (1,674 plus 402 tracers)
Thematrian1 (8:58:37 PM): Shadow Cat, you're up
Dragcrell (8:59:35 PM): Dragcrell rolled 6 6-sided dice: 6 5 3 6 4 4
Dragcrell (8:59:51 PM): Dragcrell rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 2
MilesMk1 (9:01:50 PM): (Clang clang clang goes the trolley... Ring ring ring goes the bell...)
Thematrian1 (9:02:13 PM): (Heh. This is a good arc)
Dragcrell (9:02:30 PM): (:P typeing takes time dear boy)
MilesMk1 (9:02:52 PM): (it goes faster if you type the game-essential stuff first :))
Thematrian1 (9:02:58 PM): (SC just got a good look at your adversaries, and unfortunately there's a lot of it)
Umbrafer (9:03:10 PM): (Oh dear.)
MilesMk1 (9:03:12 PM): (Ah.)
Dragcrell (9:03:41 PM): (*shurges* what can I say I have odd luck in the game
Thematrian1 (9:05:22 PM): You two can take your third turns while this goes on, actually.
Thematrian1 (9:05:23 PM): Go for it
Thematrian1 (9:05:30 PM): Alex first
Umbrafer (9:06:22 PM): What do I see now?
Thematrian1 (9:07:17 PM): Not Running MAn; he's round the corner. Bits of bugs through the holes in their defenses, though not much of that; they're retreating as quickly as they can
Umbrafer (9:08:25 PM): So the defenses are big enough that from my vantage point near the ceiling them retreating makes them less rather than more visible?
Thematrian1 (9:09:25 PM): A fair point. They're not really in coverfrom your eight-feet-up perspective
Umbrafer (9:09:45 PM): Fair enow. How many?
Thematrian1 (9:10:10 PM): 2
Umbrafer (9:11:03 PM): Six rounds at the one that appears more aware of what's going on in this direction (probably the one that looks most like it's looking this way). If I have nothing significant to compare between there, I shoot the nearest one.
Umbrafer (9:11:08 PM): If that's also about equal, the one on the right gets it.
Umbrafer (9:11:24 PM): Umbrafer rolled 12 6-sided dice: 6 4 6 5 4 4 6 5 2 5 3 4
Umbrafer (9:11:35 PM): Umbrafer rolled 3 6-sided dice: 4 1 2
Thematrian1 (9:12:03 PM): He tries to dodge...
Thematrian1 (9:12:06 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 3 3 6 2 4 4
Thematrian1 (9:12:13 PM): ooh, no chance
Thematrian1 (9:12:15 PM): Power was what?
Umbrafer (9:12:31 PM): 15, 9 base
Thematrian1 (9:12:44 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 9 6-sided dice: 6 6 3 3 3 5 4 3 3
Thematrian1 (9:13:55 PM): You spray a bug with bullets. You'd swear your aim was good, but most of your fire winds up ricocheting off into the surrounding scenery. You do a greenish stain spreading on its jacket, though.
Umbrafer (9:14:09 PM): Hm. Ungood.
Thematrian1 (9:14:09 PM): Hm. come to think of it: SC and Alex, roll perception
Umbrafer (9:14:17 PM): Umbrafer rolled 8 6-sided dice: 6 2 3 4 6 2 2 2
Umbrafer (9:14:21 PM): Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice: 6 5
Umbrafer (9:14:24 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 6
Dragcrell (9:14:25 PM): Dragcrell rolled 6 6-sided dice: 4 6 2 5 3 4
Umbrafer (9:14:29 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Dragcrell (9:14:34 PM): Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die: 4
Umbrafer (9:14:45 PM): 18, 7, 0
Umbrafer (9:14:50 PM): Talk about your feast or famine.
Thematrian1 (9:15:16 PM): SC: The jackets they're wearing are some kind of armor. Alex: the jackets they're wearing are armor plated.
Umbrafer (9:15:53 PM): #Shit. Smart bugs.#
Thematrian1 (9:16:35 PM): Blake
Dragcrell (9:16:36 PM): #smart summoner powerfull as well#
MilesMk1 (9:16:54 PM): 6-round burst at same bug
Umbrafer (9:16:54 PM): #They're armored. Looks like plates.#
MilesMk1 (9:16:58 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 12 6-sided dice: 1 2 3 1 4 6 3 2 3 5 5 1
MilesMk1 (9:17:01 PM): ......
MilesMk1 (9:17:03 PM): .......
Thematrian1 (9:17:08 PM): youhavea six there
MilesMk1 (9:17:10 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 1 6-sided die: 5
MilesMk1 (9:17:31 PM): One success, 16D
Thematrian1 (9:17:38 PM): just the one, but...ok, there we are. Both bugs are out of combat pool, so he eats...16D? Wait, what?
MilesMk1 (9:18:11 PM): 8M+6 for burst = 14D +2 for ExEx = 16D?
Umbrafer (9:18:22 PM): EX-EX. His AR only starts one point of Power less than my MMG, and I'm using stock ammo.
Thematrian1 (9:18:43 PM): the burst also stages it up two damage levels? Clearly it's been too long for me.
Thematrian1 (9:18:45 PM): Anyway.
Thematrian1 (9:18:48 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 8 6-sided dice: 1 3 2 1 4 3 3 4
MilesMk1 (9:18:54 PM): One damage level per 3 rounds.
Thematrian1 (9:18:56 PM): oof
Umbrafer (9:18:58 PM): Oh, yeah. It's +1 DL for each 3 rounds.
MilesMk1 (9:19:44 PM): #Plates, you say?#
Thematrian1 (9:19:48 PM): Well, you masterfully spray several bullets through one of the holes in the table. The bug you can see through it - you're not sure which - gets reduced to a gruesome greenish paste which the table mostly shields you from.
Thematrian1 (9:19:52 PM): Alex and SC are not so lucky.
MilesMk1 (9:20:21 PM): #Good assist, though.# *grins*
Umbrafer (9:20:36 PM): #Nice shot.#
Dragcrell (9:20:49 PM): *growls discustedly*
Umbrafer (9:21:33 PM): (How many of these things can there be? Not more than a hundred or so at this power level, I'd think… *checks ammo levels*)
MilesMk1 (9:21:44 PM): (... jealous, Miles thought, because she didn't have an AK-98...)
Thematrian1 (9:22:04 PM): (That's "rocket launcher")
Thematrian1 (9:22:07 PM): (;-))
MilesMk1 (9:22:32 PM): (It's also "he", but I was adapting the quote to the situation. "Miles" still worked, though.:))
Thematrian1 (9:22:52 PM): (Indeed)
Thematrian1 (9:23:14 PM): the one remaining bug takes to the air, seemingly by reflex. That's the end of the Turn, roll initiative
MilesMk1 (9:23:24 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 3 6-sided dice: 5 1 6
MilesMk1 (9:23:26 PM): 22
Umbrafer (9:23:28 PM): Umbrafer rolled 4 6-sided dice: 3 2 2 6
Dragcrell (9:23:30 PM): Dragcrell rolled 4 6-sided dice: 2 5 6 6
Umbrafer (9:23:55 PM): 22.
Thematrian1 (9:24:05 PM): so close
Dragcrell (9:24:06 PM): 22
Umbrafer (9:24:07 PM): My effective Reaction after wounds is 9.
MilesMk1 (9:24:13 PM): ("It was to be a death by squashing." That one could have applied to SC, too.)
MilesMk1 (9:24:15 PM): 10 here.
Umbrafer (9:24:21 PM): Aw man
Umbrafer (9:24:23 PM): I lose :(
Thematrian1 (9:24:28 PM): woah
Thematrian1 (9:24:30 PM): ok.
Umbrafer (9:24:32 PM): I miss my natural 13.
Thematrian1 (9:24:36 PM): Blake, feel free to start us up.
Dragcrell (9:24:44 PM): 3 after mods ; ;
MilesMk1 (9:25:20 PM): 6-round burst at the bug in the air. (no cover, I hope?)
Thematrian1 (9:25:27 PM): (none at all)
MilesMk1 (9:25:29 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 10 6-sided dice: 1 2 3 4 3 4 1 1 5 5
Umbrafer (9:25:36 PM): (We're suddenly acting with a terrible unity)
MilesMk1 (9:25:37 PM): 6 successes.
Umbrafer (9:25:59 PM): Yeesh. Even if you don't kill it, that should burn off some combat pool nicely.
Thematrian1 (9:26:07 PM): It's Running, so not quite, but...
Thematrian1 (9:26:09 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice: 3 4 3 5 5 3
Thematrian1 (9:26:13 PM): hah, no chance
Thematrian1 (9:26:17 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 7 6-sided dice: 5 1 5 2 4 2 3
Dragcrell (9:26:21 PM): ^_- a few anyway
Umbrafer (9:26:40 PM): #How's your ammo sit?#
Thematrian1 (9:26:43 PM): The bug falls out of the air. It might be alive
Thematrian1 (9:27:34 PM): Alex
Thematrian1 (9:27:35 PM): ?
MilesMk1 (9:28:09 PM): #Done with this clip, have 3 more on me, hundreds of rounds in the van...#
MilesMk1 (9:28:44 PM): #Worst comes to worse, I still have APDS and AV rounds on me, too.#
Umbrafer (9:28:55 PM): Hm. I'll give it three rounds, just to be safe.
Umbrafer (9:29:02 PM): Umbrafer rolled 12 6-sided dice: 1 3 2 3 3 2 1 1 2 4 6 2
Thematrian1 (9:29:03 PM): go for it
Umbrafer (9:29:07 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 1
Thematrian1 (9:29:20 PM): Thematrian1 rolled 7 6-sided dice: 4 5 2 6 3 3 5
MilesMk1 (9:29:26 PM): #Is that all of them? We need to move, get that hole cut, and get the hell out of here before reinforcements come.#
Thematrian1 (9:29:28 PM): The bug twitches some more
MilesMk1 (9:29:49 PM): #SC, grab their weapons, would you?#
Umbrafer (9:30:00 PM): #Someone make sure that bug's dead.# Searching for the Spider.
Thematrian1 (9:30:03 PM): anyone want to stay in combat?
MilesMk1 (9:30:11 PM): *walks out from the office and heads for nearest bug, scanning the area*
MilesMk1 (9:30:15 PM): Nah.
MilesMk1 (9:30:22 PM): Oh...
MilesMk1 (9:30:26 PM): *reloads first*
Umbrafer (9:30:37 PM): I'm fine dropping init
Dragcrell (9:30:44 PM): same
Thematrian1 (9:31:08 PM): ok, we're out of combat
Thematrian1 (9:31:25 PM): Running Man has reached the stairs, by the sound of him
Dragcrell (9:31:30 PM): #ya ya guns and make shoure bug human is dead# *moves to the bug and makes shore its dead*
Thematrian1 (9:32:27 PM): It is
MilesMk1 (9:32:51 PM): "Get back here, you idiot! You'll get eaten by the bugs! Why the hell do I even bother? @#@$#!@$"
Thematrian1 (9:33:20 PM): ok, for weapons, we have that spear gun, with two weird spears
Dragcrell (9:33:28 PM): *gathers the guns and sets then on a table thats not to burned or shot full of holes then rummages to see what other stuff they have*
MilesMk1 (9:33:35 PM): Ah... That reminds me, retrieve the one which missed me.
Umbrafer (9:33:51 PM): Iinteresting. Is the spider immediately visible, or has it hidden somewhere?
Umbrafer (9:34:21 PM): We have the tattered remains of a flamethrower, identifiable mostly by how deeply they're embedded in the wall? ;)
Thematrian1 (9:34:35 PM): after about thirty seconds of silence, the building rigger's drone clambers up on a table and starts lasing the ceiling
Thematrian1 (9:34:47 PM): like a park ranger sending up a flare, sort of
Umbrafer (9:35:16 PM): Fair enough.
Thematrian1 (9:35:25 PM): yeah, the flamethrower is tiny bitgs
Thematrian1 (9:36:27 PM): Oh yes
Thematrian1 (9:37:16 PM): Up close, these creatures are really odd. Their heads are normal, but with bulging, multifaceted eyes. They've got the wings, the antennae, and long fine hairs growing all over their bodies
Thematrian1 (9:37:33 PM): whoever dressed them gave them jackets, but neglected to supply pants. They are sexless.
Thematrian1 (9:37:48 PM): the jackets are, indeed, armored
Thematrian1 (9:37:56 PM): nothing special about them, though
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Thematrian1 (9:38:19 PM): on the other two bugs we have something that's either an immense pistol or a really stubby shotgun, together with several large shells
Umbrafer (9:38:24 PM): Man, we should have aimed low.
Umbrafer (9:38:29 PM): Hm.
Umbrafer (9:38:39 PM): You know, this doesn't bode well.
Umbrafer (9:38:49 PM): Bugs with research weapons.
MilesMk1 (9:39:09 PM): Yeah, we were the ones who were supposed to end up with the research weapons...
Umbrafer (9:39:17 PM): Well, we /are/.
Umbrafer (9:39:27 PM): There's just an extra step there.
Thematrian1 (9:39:46 PM): The last one has a device that looks like a scaled-down rocket launcher. It wears a belt (still without pants) with six more mini-rockets hanging from it.
Thematrian1 (9:40:08 PM): SC, perception
Dragcrell (9:40:18 PM): Dragcrell rolled 6 6-sided dice: 6 1 4 6 4 1
Dragcrell (9:40:24 PM): Dragcrell rolled 2 6-sided dice: 6 3
Dragcrell (9:40:31 PM): Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die: 2
MilesMk1 (9:41:05 PM): Yeah, I know, but I was hoping to get to open black cases molded out of ABS plastic, with very large guns resting malevolently on the temperfoam inside...
Dragcrell (9:41:06 PM): (oh poo and here I was hopeing for a ungoddly run of 6's like that one time)
MilesMk1 (9:41:49 PM): (And, yes, I was intentionally going for really bad prose, there.)
Thematrian1 (9:41:54 PM): (I'm not bringing this up for any particular reason, but you did loot some data discs from the basement level)
Umbrafer (9:42:19 PM): (We did? Who's been hoarding the data discs?!?)
MilesMk1 (9:42:24 PM): (I'm not really disappointed. Well, not much. SC.)
Umbrafer (9:42:26 PM): ( ;) )
Dragcrell (9:42:45 PM): #therrre is one more herrre behind the hub#
MilesMk1 (9:42:51 PM): (At least I think it's SC.)
Umbrafer (9:42:52 PM): (I'm sure we'll find one somewhere.)
MilesMk1 (9:43:00 PM): #Dead?#
Thematrian1 (9:43:05 PM): (And, hey, if you were a little less ethical you could have picked up a vindicator and some neato cyber)
MilesMk1 (9:43:20 PM): (Or gotten cut in half...)
Thematrian1 (9:43:30 PM): (I'm just sayin')
Umbrafer (9:43:32 PM): (There are always risks.)
Dragcrell (9:44:06 PM): #alive it pulled back with it seen me therrre all frrrom the same mage#
MilesMk1 (9:45:41 PM): #Aw, shit. What was it armed with?#
MilesMk1 (9:46:08 PM): *starts to quietly head towards SC*
Dragcrell (9:46:08 PM): #I dont know whant me to find out?#
Thematrian1 (9:46:35 PM): Blake: roll stealth
MilesMk1 (9:46:38 PM): #I'd rather kill it... What do you mean, same mage? I though these things... I dunno, were breeding, or something, not getting summoned.#
MilesMk1 (9:46:42 PM): MilesMk1 rolled 4 6-sided dice: 2 3 4 1
CirclMastr (9:47:38 PM): #Uh, Alex?#
Dragcrell (9:48:10 PM): #they arrre odd bug spirrrits that tookoverrr a human body#
Umbrafer (9:48:20 PM): #Yeah?#
Dragcrell (9:48:45 PM): #therrre also mosquito's#
CirclMastr (9:49:00 PM): #Mr. Sperethiel is eating Blake's beef jerky, and I don't know sign language for "You'd better put that down or the guy with the large guns will use them on your face." What should I do?#
Umbrafer (9:49:50 PM): *Hops out to Schattenauge to take a look at the outside* #Um…#
MilesMk1 (9:50:41 PM): Was that on the common channel?
Umbrafer (9:50:44 PM): #Give him some, take the rest away? How'd he get it, anyway?#
Umbrafer (9:51:05 PM): What I say is on the same channel Todd used, whether public or not.
CirclMastr (9:51:12 PM): (Let's say yes, just for fun)
MilesMk1 (9:51:15 PM): #The kid got into it before. Don't worry, I've pretty much resigned myself to this.#
Thematrian1 (9:51:19 PM): The outside is as you left it. Not much has changed in the last half-hour.
CirclMastr (9:51:29 PM): #Ah, alright.#
MilesMk1 (9:51:35 PM): #Mosquitos, on this floor?#
MilesMk1 (9:51:43 PM): *walks over to SC*
Thematrian1 (9:51:52 PM): Was anyone doing anything with the building rigger's drone?
Umbrafer (9:52:06 PM): When I'm in the Strato I'm keeping an eye on it
MilesMk1 (9:52:09 PM): It's still cutting through the ceiling, right?
Umbrafer (9:52:20 PM): Actually, when I jump back into it I'm going to try for a sensor lock.
Umbrafer (9:52:28 PM): Umbrafer rolled 5 6-sided dice: 1 3 5 6 6
Umbrafer (9:52:32 PM): Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 1
Thematrian1 (9:52:34 PM): No. It was signalling; a burst of laser here, a burst there
Thematrian1 (9:52:48 PM): you've locked it
Umbrafer (9:52:53 PM): I see. Ok, then. I'll go pay some attention to it.
MilesMk1 (9:52:56 PM): Oh. It's telling *us* where to blast.
Dragcrell (9:52:56 PM): *points to where the bug was at*
Umbrafer (9:53:39 PM): I'll also drop to captain's chair mode for long enough to find something to drink. How are things in the van?
MilesMk1 (9:53:58 PM): #Probably the very last real beef jerky in this hellhole... Ok, keep an eye for any more coming for us, ok? I need to check in on the spider drone.#
MilesMk1 (9:54:07 PM): *walks over to the spider*
MilesMk1 (9:54:16 PM): "Want us to make a hole there?"
MilesMk1 (9:54:34 PM): *pauses* "Don't suppose that laser can cut through, or you'd have already done it?"
Thematrian1 (9:54:52 PM): Blake: in response to your first question, it shakes itself
CirclMastr (9:54:55 PM): #Do you guys need me up there or anything?#
Thematrian1 (9:55:11 PM): Alex: the kids are looking bored and restless. Mr. Sperethiel is munching beef jerky; Todd's chewing on a piece too.
Thematrian1 (9:55:19 PM): Someone's been drinking your Aztecola
Umbrafer (9:56:02 PM): "All right, who touched the Aztecola?"
Thematrian1 (9:56:22 PM): Duncan carefully doesn't look at Alice. Alice looks at nothing in particular.
CirclMastr (9:56:30 PM): "Umm... Mr. Sperethiel."
MilesMk1 (9:56:59 PM): (Didn't we have a lot of Aztecola? Relatively speaking?)
Umbrafer (9:57:00 PM): "Whoever it is, you owe me another one when we get out of here." *Takes a long drink* "Everyone still alive here?"
MilesMk1 (9:57:09 PM): (Ah.)
CirclMastr (9:57:26 PM): "Yeah, I was thinking of taking a walk with the kids."
MilesMk1 (9:57:36 PM): (twitch)
CirclMastr (9:57:45 PM): (No, that's not a come-on! Jesus!)
Dragcrell (9:58:01 PM): *keeps searching the bodys takeing any thaing that looks as if she can use it or is intresting in other ways*
CirclMastr (9:58:05 PM): (Y'all are perverted)
MilesMk1 (9:58:11 PM): (I didn't think it was... Just... A walk? In this area? Remember the bugs that chased us?)
Dragcrell (9:58:25 PM): (lol you thout it first)
CirclMastr (9:58:27 PM): (Better than the kids going stir-crazy and making a run for it)
MilesMk1 (9:58:39 PM): Is the drone in the spot where we thought we needed to make the hole?
MilesMk1 (9:59:07 PM): "So, you don't want us to try to cut a hole in the ceiling?" *pause* "Or you do, but this isn't the spot?"
Thematrian1 (9:59:13 PM): shake, nod
MilesMk1 (10:00:08 PM): "Ah. Can you mark the right spot, then?"
MilesMk1 (10:00:29 PM): (I thought we already figured out where this was, though.)
CirclMastr (10:00:34 PM): "So, kids... what should we do?"
Thematrian1 (10:00:46 PM): it nods
Umbrafer (10:01:19 PM): "Todd… we're going to need your help up there, I think. Can you come?"
Umbrafer (10:01:27 PM): "Go."
CirclMastr (10:02:02 PM): "Alright, but my arm isn't 100% still... how do I get up or down or wherever you guys are?"
Umbrafer (10:02:43 PM): "Come, go, whichever. I can guide you." I'm going to put the van external view and Schattenauge external view on the viewscreens.
Thematrian1 (10:02:59 PM): ok
CirclMastr (10:03:51 PM): "Okay..." *turns to the kids* "You two be good, okay? Keep an eye on our mute friend." *pat pat, exit the van*
Umbrafer (10:03:56 PM): #There's a stairwell inside. [directions]. It's the nth floor.#
Dragcrell (10:03:59 PM): #we best hurrrrrry I had a small bug frrrom this mage following me beforrr he might send morrre#
Thematrian1 (10:04:26 PM): Alex: much impressed, they nod
CirclMastr (10:04:54 PM): *ascends the stairs as appropriate*
CirclMastr (10:05:02 PM): *straight-edge in hand*
Umbrafer (10:05:11 PM): #Clear the stairwell, Todd's coming up# "You doing ok back there?"
Thematrian1 (10:05:55 PM): you follow the trail of devastation up the stairs. The team is on floor 18, which is marked by a pile of days-old bodies
Thematrian1 (10:06:06 PM): Alice finds her voice first. "Sure."
CirclMastr (10:06:34 PM): "Mmm, corpses." *joins the team*
MilesMk1 (10:06:56 PM): (did the drone mark the ceiling?)
MilesMk1 (10:07:12 PM): (no rush, just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost in all the activity, though)
Dragcrell (10:07:24 PM): *snorts and keeps looking for goodys*
MilesMk1 (10:07:31 PM): Did you get a description of what this place looks like?
CirclMastr (10:07:55 PM): Me? I have no idea
Thematrian1 (10:08:26 PM): (The drone did not mark the ceiling. After a pause, it pulse three short laser bursts over toward where the bugs died.
Thematrian1 (10:08:40 PM): Its Effective range seems to be about ten meters.
MilesMk1 (10:09:09 PM): "All right, let's go." *walks over to where the drone indicated, making sure it follows* (carry it if needed)
Thematrian1 (10:10:17 PM): You have to carry it.
MilesMk1 (10:10:28 PM): (Imagine a cubicle farm in which a flamethrower was used, and then exploded catastrohically. This was followed by several bug-men getting shot to pieces, some with explosive ammo.)
Thematrian1 (10:10:29 PM): Would someone please fill Todd in on the room's structure?
MilesMk1 (10:10:39 PM): (catastrophically)
Thematrian1 (10:10:40 PM): (Thank you, Psychic Matt)
CirclMastr (10:10:42 PM): (Cute)
Umbrafer (10:10:58 PM): I'd like to program one of the drones in the van to ping me if it hears a noise louder than the midpoint between conversational volume and an average shout.
Thematrian1 (10:11:01 PM): (although, it's not a cube farm. No walls.
Umbrafer (10:11:17 PM): I'd also like to write "spare transducers" on my shopping list.
MilesMk1 (10:11:18 PM): (Large room, with a central hub that contains the staircases and elevators and what have you.)
MilesMk1 (10:11:53 PM): *carries the drone over* "Mark it when you get in range"
MilesMk1 (10:12:39 PM): (Anyone know how we're going to get through that floor, BTW? I just realized we sort of overlooked that.)
Thematrian1 (10:12:53 PM): About twenty meters from the far corner of the hub (the one around which is the quarter of the floor you haven't seen yet), it starts pulsing toward the ceiling.
Umbrafer (10:13:20 PM): (I think we all assumed the drone was going to cut through, but that could take days.)
MilesMk1 (10:13:29 PM): Ok, I make sure it's more or less under that spot, then set it down.
Thematrian1 (10:14:36 PM): It starts lasing the ceiling.
Thematrian1 (10:14:39 PM): lase lase lase
Thematrian1 (10:14:55 PM): SC is finished searching the bodies, Todd makeshis appearance, Alex...hovers?
CirclMastr (10:15:09 PM): "So, what'd I miss?"
MilesMk1 (10:15:17 PM): Does it look like it's trying to cut through?
Umbrafer (10:15:24 PM): I'm ordering the Strato to follow them, meanwhile programming an available drone in the van to do the noise-alert thing I mentioned above
Dragcrell (10:16:34 PM): "a fight" *wanders around seeing what else there is on the floor*
MilesMk1 (10:17:12 PM): "Four of those *waves towards bug-men* came after us, with weapons that looked like they came out of R&D. We killed them."
Thematrian1 (10:17:32 PM): Blake: yes. In maybe anotherminute, it'll have a hole in the ceiling
CirclMastr (10:17:33 PM): "Fun."
MilesMk1 (10:17:41 PM): Yay!
Umbrafer (10:17:45 PM): (Computers, for the noise-recognition-alert-programming)
Umbrafer (10:17:51 PM): Umbrafer rolled 6 6-sided dice: 6 5 4 2 2 3
Umbrafer (10:17:55 PM): Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die: 1
MilesMk1 (10:18:11 PM): "I got some sort of homing spear fired at me. That was new."
Umbrafer (10:18:12 PM): 5, 3, 2. Hopefully shouldn't be too complex.
CirclMastr (10:18:33 PM): "Homing... spear... right...."
Thematrian1 (10:18:40 PM): Alex: yeah, that's good enough.
MilesMk1 (10:18:47 PM): "See that long rifle over there? That's the one..."
Umbrafer (10:18:50 PM): *Turns to the kids*
Umbrafer (10:19:06 PM): "I'm going to need your help here. There's a lot going on, and we can only watch so many places at once. Can you keep an eye on these monitors and the windows, and give a shout at that drone over there if anyone or anything starts…"
Umbrafer (10:19:16 PM): "…coming towards us or the cameras?'
Thematrian1 (10:19:45 PM): Alice looks excited, Duncan worried. They nod again.
MilesMk1 (10:20:04 PM): (BTW, I need to sign off around 10:30. Sorry.)
Thematrian1 (10:20:52 PM): (We're about to reach a good stopping place)
Thematrian1 (10:21:14 PM): Todd: yep, it's a spear gun all right. The spears are weird, though: they've got fins, and some kind of infrared emitter or something in the head
CirclMastr (10:21:39 PM): "I'll stick to my straight-edge, thanks."
Thematrian1 (10:22:25 PM): the drone turns off its laser
MilesMk1 (10:22:54 PM): *turns his attention back to the ceiling*
MilesMk1 (10:23:10 PM): (and the drone)
Thematrian1 (10:23:20 PM): a pause, then
MilesMk1 (10:23:39 PM): Is there a hole?
Thematrian1 (10:23:52 PM): A small one, finger sized
Thematrian1 (10:23:53 PM): A voice from above, muted and hoarse: "Howdy."
CirclMastr (10:23:57 PM): (Then, the ceiling crashes down with a thousand bugs behind it)
CirclMastr (10:24:02 PM): (Or that)
MilesMk1 (10:24:04 PM): "Hey."
MilesMk1 (10:24:55 PM): "What's the situation up there?"
Thematrian1 (10:25:27 PM): "Not so good. Those sons of bitches grabbed some bugs, hauled them onto this floor. We're administration!"
Thematrian1 (10:26:10 PM): "Then they tell me, just hold the building a few days while things calm down"
CirclMastr (10:26:12 PM): #Do you guys know this person?#
Thematrian1 (10:26:15 PM): "Brother, they are not calm."
Dragcrell (10:26:32 PM): *leeps on to the ceiling and makes her way to the hole and sniffs*
Thematrian1 (10:26:38 PM): "I have a stockpile of hot Ares tech and a real yen to hurt my ex-employer. Let's deal."
MilesMk1 (10:27:01 PM): #He's got acces to the building systems, and is willing to deal for a way out of here.#
MilesMk1 (10:27:12 PM): #He's the one controlling that spider drone.#
Umbrafer (10:27:54 PM): #How long's he been stuck here?#
MilesMk1 (10:28:18 PM): "Sounds good to me... What'd you need?" "And how long have you been stuck in there?"
Thematrian1 (10:29:06 PM): "I don't know. I think...eighty hours? I'm in the security closet. I've got a ventilator."
Thematrian1 (10:29:20 PM): "Some of 'em can go through the fragging walls."
Thematrian1 (10:29:32 PM): "I haven't slept, they could come any time."
Thematrian1 (10:30:41 PM): "I want out. Just open the fucking floor and get me out of here. I've got this drone, a few others up above. Someone's been stealing my systems. Fast and scary, I've never seen - "
Dragcrell (10:31:02 PM): Dragcrell rolled 6 6-sided dice: 3 6 2 3 1 6
Dragcrell (10:31:08 PM): Dragcrell rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 3
Thematrian1 (10:31:42 PM): "But I grabbed a bunch of the good stuff, before I got stuckhere. Planned to sell it - doesn't matter now."
Umbrafer (10:32:14 PM): #Keep him talking about the good stuff, but get info on how to get him out first. Don't want him getting nervous about us.#
Dragcrell (10:32:52 PM): #I smell fearrr and sweat lots of both#
MilesMk1 (10:33:22 PM): "Allright, where are you in relation to the hole, and how much of a safety margin do we have - meaning, how far back can you get? Also, how much room do you need for yourself and the good stuff?"
MilesMk1 (10:33:39 PM): Make that "how far back can you move from it"
MilesMk1 (10:33:51 PM): And "What size hole do you need for..."
Thematrian1 (10:34:30 PM): I've got five meters clearance. Maybe...a meter to fit the drone through. Much less for the rest.
Umbrafer (10:34:31 PM): #Remember, we need him calm. Essie, no showing your teeth.#
Thematrian1 (10:34:42 PM): "And the code keys, take those..."
MilesMk1 (10:34:53 PM): Also: Do I think a burning bar will do the job on this ceiling?
Dragcrell (10:35:31 PM): #ok should I go back to the van then?#
Thematrian1 (10:35:44 PM): maybe. It'd definitely work on the floor
MilesMk1 (10:36:01 PM): #No, hold on... I might need your help with the ceiling. Just don't scare him.#
MilesMk1 (10:36:23 PM): Meaning, it's hard to reach? I thought of that, we just happen to have a towering tigress with us.
Thematrian1 (10:36:53 PM): very true. Also, how are you holding the burning bar in place?
Thematrian1 (10:37:08 PM): We can stop here, if you need to run.
MilesMk1 (10:37:23 PM): ... I was thinking, by its handle? It's a complete tool, no?
Umbrafer (10:37:36 PM): We could pass the bar up to the guy, though that might be a way for him to get himself hurt
MilesMk1 (10:37:42 PM): I figure, SC lifts me up, I cut.
MilesMk1 (10:37:55 PM): Alternately, we pile a couple of tables up, I stand on them.
MilesMk1 (10:38:10 PM): I have flare comp, so I can look at what I'm doing safely.
Thematrian1 (10:38:26 PM): I'll accept that.
Thematrian1 (10:38:43 PM): (I thought burning bars were just all burning, all the time, but some research shows that they're not)
Umbrafer (10:38:47 PM): Alex thought that way once
Umbrafer (10:39:11 PM): The "I have flare comp, I can look at what I'm doing safely" way.
Dragcrell (10:39:35 PM): #all right what do you need me to do then#
MilesMk1 (10:40:08 PM): "All right... Get ready, we should have you out of there soon. I'm going to cut a hole a little over 1 meter square - do me a favor, and use your laser drone to mark the corners. Then, when I tell you, get well back and don't
MilesMk1 (10:40:17 PM): look at it as I cut."
MilesMk1 (10:40:57 PM): *asks SC for either a boost or a hand stacking tables*
Thematrian1 (10:41:09 PM): A pause, then the drone starts marking corners.
Dragcrell (10:41:39 PM): *boosts Blake up so he can cut*
MilesMk1 (10:41:57 PM): "Ready. Get to a safe spot." *cuts the hole*
Thematrian1 (10:43:19 PM): cut cut cut cut cut. You wind up having to make two holes; there's a space between floors for air conditioning and power cables and the like. None of those run in the area the drone specified, though.
Thematrian1 (10:44:26 PM): After you've cut through the upper half...you're in
Thematrian1 (10:44:43 PM): First impressions: it's dark up there
Thematrian1 (10:45:43 PM): second impression: it smells terrible: five days of fear, sweat, and no air conditioning
MilesMk1 (10:45:56 PM): (Theromgraphic, Low Light, Eye Lights. Just saying. ;))
Thematrian1 (10:46:04 PM): (Right, right)
Thematrian1 (10:47:07 PM): Three: Boosting yourself into the room, you see a young man lying against the wall. His blond hair is plastered to his face, and he's connected by cable to a remote control deck in his lap
Thematrian1 (10:47:40 PM): The whole room is maybe six by six meters, but it seems smaller; every section of wall that isn't the door has a computer against it.
MilesMk1 (10:47:58 PM): "Hey there."
Thematrian1 (10:48:32 PM): the door is guarded by a hulking drone with two independent weapon turrets. It looks a lot like the Steel Lynx, but bigger.
Umbrafer (10:48:33 PM): A fellow Rigger!
MilesMk1 (10:48:50 PM): (And assuming bugs don't burst through the walls at this convenient moment, I think I will call it a day. Night.)
Thematrian1 (10:48:55 PM): They don't
Thematrian1 (10:48:56 PM): Good night
Umbrafer (10:49:09 PM): If a security Rigger. Still, he's not a meatling, and that's what counts.
MilesMk1 (10:49:15 PM): #He's got a drone. You know the Steel Lynx?#
Umbrafer (10:49:26 PM): #Which model?#
MilesMk1 (10:49:47 PM): #None, this one's bigger and has two weapon turrets. But a lot like the Steel Lynx, otherwise.#
Thematrian1 (10:50:04 PM): The man waves to Blake. As you take in the scene, you notice dozens of small, empty pill bottles lying around the room, along with soyfood wrappers and half-empty bottles of cola.
Umbrafer (10:50:17 PM): *Little trickle of drool drips down chin*
MilesMk1 (10:51:01 PM): "Thank God for No-Doze, eh? Well, let's get this show on the road."
MilesMk1 (10:51:17 PM): (and now, I really will run. assume Blake helps as needed if you guys want to keep on playing?)
MilesMk1 (10:51:21 PM): Good night.
Thematrian1 (10:51:29 PM): (I was going to give some more exposition and then pack it in)
MilesMk1 (10:51:39 PM): (Cool, see you guys Thurs.)
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Dragcrell (10:51:56 PM): *makes shoure her hood and face mask is on as not to friten the fellow*
Thematrian1 (10:52:13 PM): In three tries, he manages to stand.
Thematrian1 (10:52:42 PM): He points to one of the computers. "That one's hollow. The weapons are inside. Get me out of here, please, I don't think I can walk."
Dragcrell (10:54:25 PM): *lowers the guy down to Tod then begins moveing the stuff to the floor below*
Thematrian1 (10:56:52 PM): Ugh. So sleepy. You guys want the loot details now or later?
CirclMastr (10:56:58 PM): *shrug*
Umbrafer (10:57:17 PM): Broad overview'd be nice, but I can wait on details.
Thematrian1 (10:58:16 PM): K. We've got: stout metal pole with twin opposed laser emitters, labelled "Laser Axe Model 6"
Thematrian1 (10:58:30 PM): A big bow with lots of fancy gadgetry
Thematrian1 (10:58:48 PM): A wide collection of large pistols
Thematrian1 (10:59:18 PM): A short, stubby flamethrower
Thematrian1 (10:59:27 PM): (You can tell by the attached fuel pack)
Thematrian1 (10:59:57 PM): Miscellaneous grenades, and a few larger mines.
Thematrian1 (11:00:49 PM): that's the lot
Dragcrell (11:01:26 PM): ^_^ a large feline might be haveing fun later on :P
Umbrafer (11:01:37 PM): Good times.
Dragcrell (11:04:02 PM): well if thats if for the night I'll be moveing along :3
Thematrian1 (11:04:04 PM): and that's a wrap. Thank you all for coming, and next week, you can decide what to do with this guy
Umbrafer (11:04:12 PM): Organlegging! ;)
Dragcrell (11:04:30 PM): mmmmmm wounder what he would tast like with soem A1?
Thematrian1 (11:04:47 PM): God damn it
CirclMastr (11:04:49 PM): I should have made a ghoul character for this fill-in >_> heh
Dragcrell (11:06:02 PM): lol hey it make perficly good sence for my cher to be eatting stuff like formly alive pepole she is a conivre after all
Umbrafer (11:06:32 PM): What's your opinion on the taste of bug spirit?
Dragcrell (11:07:04 PM): mmmmmm hard to say depends on how buggy they are
Thematrian1 (11:07:32 PM): let's say they're...bugtastic
Dragcrell (11:08:08 PM): ^_^ crunchy on the out side with a soft gooy center eh :P
Dragcrell (11:10:03 PM): well I best be off befor we all bug out ;3
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CirclMastr (11:16:16 PM): So, I just finished reading Asimov's Guide to the New Testament.
Thematrian1 (11:18:25 PM): ah?
Umbrafer (11:19:51 PM): What insights did he have?
CirclMastr (11:21:20 PM): Damn chat message limit..
CirclMastr (11:21:48 PM): The most interesting parts were probably the dissections of the Gospels, seeing who included what and what was left out by whom.
CirclMastr (11:22:06 PM): F'rinstance, only one miracle of Jesus is included in all four gospels.
CirclMastr (11:22:38 PM): (Try to guess which one)
Thematrian1 (11:22:49 PM): not the transfiguration...
Thematrian1 (11:22:59 PM): the wedding?
CirclMastr (11:23:54 PM): Nope (in fact, the wedding only appears in John, the clearly non-historical account)
CirclMastr (11:24:25 PM): (John was fraggin' high on hero-myth, even Catholics recognize it's of no historical value)
Thematrian1 (11:24:41 PM): (The clearly mystical account, anyway. "In the beginning was the Word", et cetera)
CirclMastr (11:25:48 PM): (That part is actually of Greek influence. The Greek word used is "Logos" and it was used by non-Christian Greeks to describe a philosophy of natural laws, much as what we base modern science on)
CirclMastr (11:26:22 PM): (Basically the idea that gods created the world to follow certain laws of nature that could be deduced by observation)
Thematrian1 (11:27:49 PM): ok, I give up. Which miracle?
CirclMastr (11:28:26 PM): The loaves and the fishes
Umbrafer (11:28:41 PM): Everyone loves food.
Thematrian1 (11:28:44 PM): yeah, that's believable
CirclMastr (11:29:05 PM): I'm a fan of food.
CirclMastr (11:29:55 PM): Matthew is the only non-John gospel (I'm blanking out on the term used to describe the first three gospels) that talks about Jesus's childhood, and he gives conflicting accounts.
Thematrian1 (11:30:25 PM): Synoptic
Thematrian1 (11:30:31 PM): the first three are the synoptics
Umbrafer (11:31:02 PM): Internally conflicting, or conflicting with Matthew? Man, it's been way too long since I studied any of this. All kinds of things I haven't touched since High School are coming out tonight.
CirclMastr (11:31:16 PM): Right, synoptic
CirclMastr (11:31:49 PM): Internally conflicting; he starts out by going to great pains to list Jesus's geneological descent from David, to show he is of the Davidic line and thus able to be the Messiah
CirclMastr (11:31:59 PM): Then he says it was a virgin birth by God.
Thematrian1 (11:32:51 PM): yeah. Matthew was big on explaining how Jesus fulfills all the Messianic prophecies
Thematrian1 (11:33:00 PM): which put him into a few tough spots
CirclMastr (11:33:11 PM): Matthew was big on Mosaic law and reconciling Christianity with Judaism.
CirclMastr (11:33:22 PM): He (mis)quotes the Old Testament a bunch too
Thematrian1 (11:33:44 PM): true, but misleadingly phrased. The idea of Christianity as apart from Judaism started with Paul, much later.
CirclMastr (11:34:05 PM): Well, the gospels weren't put to paper until well after Jesus was no more, of course.
Thematrian1 (11:34:21 PM): sure, long after in some cases.
CirclMastr (11:34:28 PM): By the time they are on paper, Paul is either already prosthelytizing or is done and dead and the schism is there.
CirclMastr (11:34:59 PM): Matthew was clearly anti-Gentile, and Luke clearly pro-Gentile. It's been put forward that Luke probably wrote Acts as well.
Thematrian1 (11:35:45 PM): certainly. But Matthew was writing down the things he had already believed (we can safely presume). That's all I'm saying.
CirclMastr (11:36:22 PM): Mmm.
CirclMastr (11:37:55 PM): It turns out there's no Biblical evidence for Mary Magdalen being a prostitute. I'm not sure if that's a let-down or not.
Thematrian1 (11:38:07 PM): yeah. Does it say where that came from?
Thematrian1 (11:38:11 PM): I've never been sure.
Thematrian1 (11:38:19 PM): Do people just conflate her with the woman caught in adultery?
CirclMastr (11:39:00 PM): Only the coincidence that it takes about Jesus curing Mary Magdalen in a verse following one where he meets a harlot. People just decided to assume that Mary Magdalen WAS the harlot.
CirclMastr (11:39:52 PM): (It seems more like she was mildly schitzophrenic, or epileptic)
CirclMastr (11:40:26 PM): (Since Jesus cures her of demonic possession. People have tried to twist that to support the whore theory by claiming the demons are 'lust demons' or something.)
Thematrian1 (11:40:33 PM): (...k)
CirclMastr (11:41:18 PM): Dr. Asimov even mentions that one gospel (Luke I think?) has Mary Magdalen the first person to see the risen Christ, and gives a theory about that.
Thematrian1 (11:41:32 PM): a theory?
CirclMastr (11:42:18 PM): Basically hypothesizing that after Jesus died, Mary Magdalen broke down/had a relapse and went psychotic again, and hallucinated seeing Jesus. She spreads the story that he arose, a few believe her and spread it further, etc.
Thematrian1 (11:42:41 PM): ah
CirclMastr (11:45:59 PM): I can't believe they actually accepted Revelations into the canonical Bible.
Thematrian1 (11:46:14 PM): Revelation
Thematrian1 (11:46:19 PM): It's the Revelation to John
Thematrian1 (11:46:22 PM): the plural is a debasement
Thematrian1 (11:46:28 PM): sorry
CirclMastr (11:46:43 PM): w/e
Thematrian1 (11:46:58 PM): eh, at least you're not a minister
Thematrian1 (11:47:02 PM): I'd hope Asimov got it right, though
CirclMastr (11:47:30 PM): He started off by rattling off the 4 or 5 different titles used based on supposed authorship.
CirclMastr (11:48:05 PM): And he used 3 or 4 different versions of the Bible as sources, so I'm sure he got it right and I'm just using the plural out of habit.
Thematrian1 (11:48:20 PM): that does sound promising
CirclMastr (11:49:03 PM): Being raised Jewish and thus knowing a great deal (if not fluent) Hebrew probably was a great help to his discussion of translation issues.
Thematrian1 (11:49:31 PM): I'd expect so. I don't speak Hebrew or Greek, so I'm stuck listening when the conversation reaches that level.
Thematrian1 (11:49:49 PM): arsenokoites, etc.
CirclMastr (11:50:19 PM): ("Greek for 'The Arsenio Hall Show' ")
Thematrian1 (11:50:32 PM): (Heh)
CirclMastr (11:51:41 PM): Apparently (if I'm remembering correctly) Paul at one point in Acts visits the famed isle of Lesbos, so he (Asimov) got to bring up Sappho and lesbianism. I found that amusing.
Umbrafer (11:51:46 PM): I wish I'd kept up my Greek better.
Thematrian1 (11:52:11 PM): wait, when was this?
CirclMastr (11:52:26 PM): I dunno, either his first or second missionary journey.
CirclMastr (11:52:53 PM): He went all over the place; most of the discussion in Acts was keeping up with all the city and place names that get rattled off.
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