circlmastr: (20:05:32)Hoy
everguard4: (20:05:35) I got somewhat involved in something
everguard4: (20:05:39) so I'll be in and out for a little bit
umbrafer: (20:06:16)Happens
Thematrian1: (20:08:08)so we had a map, some special bonus paydata, and a tap into their security system?
circlmastr: (20:08:13)And a lack of Wave feedback about time and expense of getting Lone Star credentials.
umbrafer: (20:09:36)Yes. The bonus paydata was some stuff about the UCAS military base.
umbrafer: (20:16:44)But yes, you'd acquired a certain number of things.
umbrafer: (20:16:59)And not acquired others, mostly due to my poor time management
umbrafer: (20:18:08)Anyway. Our antiheroes had made their getaway
umbrafer: (20:19:31)There had at some point been an excursion which at this point I'm willing to simply assume (I don't think it interacted with any security devices you hadn't already subverted) which verified that the tap appears to be receiving a Matrix signal.
Thematrian1: (20:21:42)so we have a way into their Matrix system, maybe
umbrafer: (20:24:12)At least into something
umbrafer: (20:24:38)Well, it could potentially be one-way, but that seems unlikely
Thematrian1: (20:26:00)ok, it's time to figure out what's what and pick a plan
Thematrian1: (20:26:20)#1: what's the security situation like from a go-guns-blazing-into-the-awakened-ward perspective?
umbrafer: (20:27:23)Give me an appropriate security-related skill or default
Thematrian1: (20:27:39)that'd be someone other than me, then.  Fuma?  Shoe?
umbrafer: (20:29:49)(Feel free to give it a go yourself as well, just don't botch and convince everyone that your interpretation was right :-) )
Thematrian1: (20:30:31)sure, why not?  Default from int, at a mere +3:
OnlineHost: (20:30:31) Thematrian1 rolled 8 6-sided dice:  2 2 6 6 5 6 5 4
OnlineHost: (20:30:32) Thematrian1 rolled 3 6-sided dice:  5 6 1
OnlineHost: (20:30:32) Thematrian1 rolled 1 6-sided die:  5
Thematrian1: (20:30:37)17 11 7
umbrafer: (20:30:50)Heh
circlmastr: (20:32:39)I'm sure Fuma doesn't have a skill for it but I'll join the defaulting craze.
OnlineHost: (20:32:40) circlmastr rolled 6 6-sided dice:  5 1 5 6 1 5
OnlineHost: (20:32:40) circlmastr rolled 1 6-sided die:  5
circlmastr: (20:32:40)Hey I got an 11
umbrafer: (20:32:52)I was going to start with the good news, but there isn't much; the best is that many of the sentry guns seem set up to fire into the block, so you wouldn't have to deal with them until you got inside.
Thematrian1: (20:33:31)that's not good news at all!
circlmastr: (20:33:52)"Good news, everyone!  You're going on a mission into the Zone of Terror!"
umbrafer: (20:35:08)There's one primary path in, with a… um…
Thematrian1: (20:35:12)(I know you were kidding, but that does pretty much sum up Clip's thoughts on this mission)
umbrafer: (20:35:40)I'm blanking, what's the term for an airlock-like secured space where you're brought in and your exit is sealed before the next entrance is opened?
Thematrian1: (20:35:48)kill zone?
Thematrian1: (20:35:50)murder room?
Thematrian1: (20:35:57)slaughterhouse?
Dragcrell: (20:35:58)(Clean Room)
Thematrian1: (20:36:04)(or that)
umbrafer: (20:37:01)Anyway, there's a double-layer one of those.
umbrafer: (20:37:44)The alternate means of egress appears to be a set of armored doors with explosive charges to shear the bolts holding them closed off
everguard4: (20:37:51) keeps getting better...
Thematrian1: (20:39:09)how big is the block?  How many Awakened can it hold?
umbrafer: (20:40:51)The secondary egress leads to a containment area elsewhere within the prison compound
umbrafer: (20:41:08)As for capacity
umbrafer: (20:43:46)It's not terribly high; listed capacity is 78 prisoners, remarkably low for the amount of space it takes up
everguard4: (20:46:29) ouch
everguard4: (20:46:39) whoops
Thematrian1: (20:46:42)OTOH, 78 mages is quite a lot of mages
umbrafer: (20:47:11)It is, yes
Thematrian1: (20:48:46)ok, now let's have a look at the medical facilities
Thematrian1: (20:48:49)what's there to see there?
umbrafer: (20:49:49)Well, for one thing all of a sudden the things surrounding the sentry turrets start to be as much about concealing them as anything
umbrafer: (20:50:17)As opposed to the awakened block, where they were concealed from some angles but mostly protected rather than concealed
umbrafer: (20:51:16)Furthermore, more turrets are listed as being loaded with less-lethal rounds
umbrafer: (20:51:43)There's a whatever-it's-called here as well, but it's only single-layer and is less fortified
umbrafer: (20:53:30)What sort of details are you looking for?
Thematrian1: (20:54:36)Most importantly: how extensive is it?  Could I perform surgery there?  On how many patients at once?  Are there bedding facilities for long-term care, or would I have to go to them?
Thematrian1: (20:54:44)Here's medicine to try to glean all that:
OnlineHost: (20:54:44) Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice:  4 6 4 6 6 5
OnlineHost: (20:54:45) Thematrian1 rolled 3 6-sided dice:  3 2 6
OnlineHost: (20:54:45) Thematrian1 rolled 1 6-sided die:  5
Thematrian1: (20:54:50)17 9 8
Thematrian1: (21:00:04)and oh yes: food preparation
umbrafer: (21:00:21)It's extensive; based on notes on the plans and other information you've gleaned, it looks like this is the place where UCAS prisoners in Seattle are sent if they get seriously ill, even if they weren't originally incarcerated in this prison. The operating suite has six ORs listed.
umbrafer: (21:00:59)Long-term care is available in three levels of security.
Thematrian1: (21:02:09)is any of it suitable for containing powerful Awakened?
circlmastr: (21:02:11)We may be taking the wrong approach to this.
Thematrian1: (21:02:30)go on
circlmastr: (21:02:49)We don't need to get him out, we don't even need to get ourselves in.  We just need to get the mask in.  And even supermax prisons have contraband and smuggling.
circlmastr: (21:03:10)We just need a criminal contact who can get the mask in through the gangs' established contraband paths and get him the mask.
Dragcrell: (21:03:11)he has a good point
Thematrian1: (21:03:17)supermax prisons do, SR Awakened prisons are vastly worse.  Even your lawyer doesn't get to see you face to face
Thematrian1: (21:03:26)but if it's not totally solitary confinement, maybe we can work something out
umbrafer: (21:03:43)There are facilities for containing Awakened, it looks like, but it's not clear if it's proper for powerful Awakened
circlmastr: (21:04:39)Does anyone have a contact with a major gang like the Ancients or Halloweeners or something?  Or, hell, if there are any mobsters in there we could use our Mafia or Yakuza contacts.
Thematrian1: (21:05:11)I know a few
Thematrian1: (21:05:26)my big fear would be Wrong Party
circlmastr: (21:05:42)Are we using those rules?
Thematrian1: (21:05:57)perhaps not those rules specifically, but I feel sure that the concept applies
Thematrian1: (21:06:02)Jon?
umbrafer: (21:06:24)The concept absolutely applies, yes
umbrafer: (21:06:44)I'll admit that I'd have to review the rules for sanity to know if we're using SRComp Wrong Party
umbrafer: (21:06:56)If they're not described as optional, assume we are
circlmastr: (21:07:18)You could start with some general feelers.  "How hard is it/how much does it cost to get something to someone inside this prison?"
circlmastr: (21:07:37)(I thought all of SRComp was optional by default.)
umbrafer: (21:08:26)(Maybe; that would throw a wrench in my usual guidelines)
circlmastr: (21:10:15)At any rate, the Wrong Party penalty for trying to smuggle something into a prison can't be worse than for trying to get our hands on enough toxic gas to kill or knock out everyone inside.
Thematrian1: (21:11:06)(FTR, the plan was to poison the food in order to lure Itachi out to the infirmary.  I would meanwhile have been planted there, and be in a position to hand off the mask)
circlmastr: (21:12:38)(Well in that case, it's probably better to spike it with Laes or some psychotropic drug that will require mental therapy.  Not typically a big thing in prison infirmaries, and more likely to get him transferred out/get a doctor transferred in.)
Dragcrell: (21:14:07)(we must take care to not do to much coladral damgae to his mental state we dotn know how importent that could be to the idea of him raiseing hell or not)
circlmastr: (21:14:50)(I still prefer the smuggling idea, personally.)
circlmastr: (21:15:07)Clip, social feelers go!
Dragcrell: (21:15:09)(same with me
Thematrian1: (21:15:51)ok, ok.  Go go Etiquette for gang leaders:
OnlineHost: (21:15:51) Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice:  3 5 6 1 6 5
OnlineHost: (21:15:51) Thematrian1 rolled 2 6-sided dice:  2 6
OnlineHost: (21:15:51) Thematrian1 rolled 1 6-sided die:  4
OnlineHost: (21:15:51) Thematrian1 rolled 6 6-sided dice:  6 4 2 5 5 6
OnlineHost: (21:15:52) Thematrian1 rolled 2 6-sided dice:  5 3
umbrafer: (21:15:55)(No love for the frontal assault?)
Thematrian1: (21:15:59)16 8 5 5 and 11 9 5 5
Thematrian1: (21:16:05)(No love.  Antilove.)
circlmastr: (21:16:23)(Anteros.  Unrequited love.)
Dragcrell: (21:16:34)(:3 and potentaly have most fo the team killed :3 in the attempt?)
umbrafer: (21:20:19)One of your contacts turns up mostly empty; he says he's gotten stuff in before, and could probably do it again, but that his channels are dry right now due to a long stretch without anyone he protects ending up in that particular prison.
umbrafer: (21:20:59)The other says he's your man and will give you a good price. You're skeptical.
umbrafer: (21:21:20)(About the price, that is)
circlmastr: (21:22:21)(Better that than be skeptical about his ability.)
Thematrian1: (21:22:31)(Yeah, definitely)
Thematrian1: (21:22:53)I'll give him the rough size of the object that I want transported, and I'll make sure he understands it's supposed to go to the Awakened ward.
umbrafer: (21:25:08)A lot of confidence fades away when he hears where it's going. "We don't have anyone in there, not since they broke Burning Tim. I'm gonna have to make a connection."
Thematrian1: (21:25:45)"I don't mind spending a little, if my care package gets where it's supposed to."
umbrafer: (21:26:40)"That'll help. Will a chemsniffer pick it up, a dog, something like that?"
Thematrian1: (21:27:24)"Nah.  It'll show up to magical inspection, though."
umbrafer: (21:28:20)He doesn't look thrilled with that response, but he nods.
umbrafer: (21:30:35)"Let me call some guys, I'll get right back to you."
Thematrian1: (21:30:59)fair enough.  I bid him farewell
umbrafer: (21:33:39)Any actions while you wait?
everguard4: (21:33:58) plug virt in the basement? =)
circlmastr: (21:34:12)Fuma continues waiting for Lone Star credentials.
Thematrian1: (21:35:07)thanks
Dragcrell: (21:35:14)mmmm woudl be a good idea to test the conetion besides that any thing else?
Thematrian1: (21:35:53)kinda depends what you're hooked up to
Dragcrell: (21:36:17)mmm true
Thematrian1: (21:36:25)step 1: find out what kind of phenomenal cosmic power we've tapped you into here
Dragcrell: (21:37:01)(lol nice play on that one tho the tiny liveing space might be off on the rest of the statment)
Dragcrell: (21:38:06)well lets see what we have to work with
Dragcrell: (21:38:26)and ya I'm going to go with max stealth on the entry
umbrafer: (21:40:27)I think the group only has a Max Power
OnlineHost: (21:41:06) Dragcrell rolled 10 6-sided dice:  2 2 4 6 3 2 4 4 5 4
OnlineHost: (21:41:06) Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die:  1
umbrafer: (21:41:19)//roll-dice15
Dragcrell: (21:41:25)^_^ well no need to let them know we are knocking
OnlineHost: (21:41:25) Umbrafer rolled 15 6-sided dice:  2 2 5 4 1 5 5 1 4 1 6 1 6 4 3
umbrafer: (21:41:29)//roll-dice2
OnlineHost: (21:41:34) Umbrafer rolled 2 6-sided dice:  4 2
umbrafer: (21:42:14)You're on something very bare-bones
umbrafer: (21:43:25)Give me Sensors
Dragcrell: (21:43:47)#well this don't look to promising#
Dragcrell: (21:43:47)mmmmm lest see what we are dealing with
OnlineHost: (21:44:33) Dragcrell rolled 8 6-sided dice:  2 3 5 3 4 2 3 1
umbrafer: (21:45:58)You see very few icons; there's almost nothing here.
Dragcrell: (21:47:00)mmmmmm no other connections?
circlmastr: (21:47:10)(brb, dinner)
umbrafer: (21:47:26)Nothing immediately visible, but you'd have to Search to be sure
Dragcrell: (21:47:35)ok
OnlineHost: (21:47:45) Dragcrell rolled 10 6-sided dice:  3 6 4 2 3 5 4 5 4 1
OnlineHost: (21:48:01) Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die:  6
OnlineHost: (21:48:01) Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die:  2
umbrafer: (21:49:09)//roll-dice15
OnlineHost: (21:49:09) Umbrafer rolled 15 6-sided dice:  6 6 6 6 5 1 5 3 3 3 5 4 5 3 1
umbrafer: (21:49:16)//roll-dice4
OnlineHost: (21:49:16) Umbrafer rolled 4 6-sided dice:  3 4 3 3
umbrafer: (21:51:28)You don't find any SANs. There are a couple of Slave Nodes, and that seems to be it.
Dragcrell: (21:52:20)#well this appers to be a bust nothing here#
Thematrian1: (21:52:55)#What, nothing?  We know there's at least one detector, that's how we found it in the first place.#
Dragcrell: (21:53:44)#next to no icons and just a couple slave nodes#
Thematrian1: (21:54:02)#What do they do?#
Dragcrell: (21:54:32)#I start playing to much they could find out#
umbrafer: (21:56:51)Meanwhile, the Sun Phone starts ringing
Thematrian1: (21:57:02)#Yes?#
Dragcrell: (21:58:06)anlyze the hoste effective rateing 7 control channel
OnlineHost: (21:58:14) Dragcrell rolled 10 6-sided dice:  4 4 6 3 3 5 2 3 4 4
umbrafer: (21:58:19)"Hey. I got a lead on a connection, but he wants five kays just to talk about it. You ok with that?"
OnlineHost: (21:58:23) Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die:  5
umbrafer: (21:58:34)//roll-dice15
OnlineHost: (21:58:34) Umbrafer rolled 15 6-sided dice:  6 3 3 5 6 3 2 3 6 4 4 2 5 6 1
umbrafer: (21:58:42)//roll-dice4
OnlineHost: (21:58:42) Umbrafer rolled 4 6-sided dice:  3 6 5 5
umbrafer: (21:58:45)//roll-dice1
OnlineHost: (21:58:45) Umbrafer rolled 1 6-sided die:  2
Thematrian1: (21:59:16)Underworld experience coming to the fore: is that price insane, or merely high?
circlmastr: (22:00:38)(Well, 5k is the going rate for a level 1 contact.)
umbrafer: (22:00:40)It's not bad, though the fact that your contact is calling to confirm about it means that he probably can't provide any sort of assurance that it won't be wasted
Thematrian1: (22:00:58)"I can live with that."
circlmastr: (22:01:17)(Oh, make the call, and then I can show up in full armor as your backup/insurance and be all scary!)
Thematrian1: (22:01:27)(Sounds good ;-))
Thematrian1: (22:01:29)"I can live with that."
umbrafer: (22:01:47)"Ok. I'll start talking and set things up."
umbrafer: (22:01:56)Meanwhile, back on the host:
umbrafer: (22:03:37)Now this is suspicious. You've got a Blue-4 with low subsystem ratings, not at all what you'd expect from a prison security system.
circlmastr: (22:04:53)Maybe we accidentally tapped the sanitation department of the DPW.
Dragcrell: (22:06:52)mmmmmm
Dragcrell: (22:08:39)#something isn't right about this host#
Thematrian1: (22:08:49)#How so?#
circlmastr: (22:08:50)brb again
Dragcrell: (22:09:31)#rateing in stuff is to low for a security system of a prison like this#
Thematrian1: (22:09:44)Hmm...in that case, what is it?
Thematrian1: (22:10:02)#Suck out all its secrets then.  No reason to be shy if it's that wimpy a system, right?#
Dragcrell: (22:10:37)#unless its a trap#
Dragcrell: (22:12:33)i'm going to pull out for now
OnlineHost: (22:12:35) Dragcrell rolled 10 6-sided dice:  5 6 5 3 5 6 6 5 5 5
OnlineHost: (22:12:44) Dragcrell rolled 3 6-sided dice:  4 1 6
OnlineHost: (22:12:46) Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die:  3
umbrafer: (22:13:13)//roll-dice15
OnlineHost: (22:13:13) Umbrafer rolled 15 6-sided dice:  5 4 1 4 5 2 2 4 3 2 5 3 1 3 3
umbrafer: (22:13:19)You're out
Dragcrell: (22:14:02)"I'm not trusting of that host"
Thematrian1: (22:15:38)::scoff::
Dragcrell: (22:16:23)mmm going to roll for a Security Network familiartity first then matrix security procedures see if any thing pops to mind on what sort of set would would be like that
circlmastr: (22:16:47)Bck
OnlineHost: (22:16:47) Dragcrell rolled 6 6-sided dice:  3 6 2 2 5 5
OnlineHost: (22:16:47) Dragcrell rolled 1 6-sided die:  1
Thematrian1: (22:16:53)(The other possibility here is that we've stumbled across some perfectly innocent Public Works detector, for earthquakes or something)
Dragcrell: (22:17:29)(well that would be intrsting and not good
circlmastr: (22:17:40)(Or it's a system so secure it's wrapped all the way around back to easy!)
Dragcrell: (22:17:42)(well for our use anyway)
Dragcrell: (22:18:01)(pj O
umbrafer: (22:18:11)Aside from the perfectly-innocent possibilities, the main things that come to mind are the following three:
Dragcrell: (22:18:22)(oh I'm sure its secure as all hell)
umbrafer: (22:19:00)First, it could be a weak system with a vanishing SAN connecting it to the full system at the right time.
umbrafer: (22:19:31)That one seems a little off, as it'd still be possible to subvert the weak host a fair bit in ways that might be difficult to identify when the SAN appears.
umbrafer: (22:20:07)Second, it could be a write-only throwaway host to just pass off the data from the sensor module to something else without passing any sort of command interface
umbrafer: (22:20:28)More or less the same issue as the first option; the weak host makes it easy to overwrite the data before it goes out
umbrafer: (22:20:38)The third possibility is that it could be a virtual host
umbrafer: (22:21:05)It's still oddly weak, but that's less taxing on the outer host's resources
umbrafer: (22:21:19)And the inner host's status can be more closely monitored
Dragcrell: (22:21:30)mmmmm
Dragcrell: (22:22:37)all 3 makeing of use to us to use on the prision ether unlikely or overly risky
umbrafer: (22:23:47)That might be a little strong; you are, after all, practically a part of the network. On the other hand, it does mean that more work is probably necessary to take advantage of the tap
Thematrian1: (22:25:17)No guts, no glory, as it were.
Dragcrell: (22:26:22)ya the vanishing SAN is tricky with out knowing the timeing but once found I can jam it open, the other two are a weeeeeee bit trickyer to make work
umbrafer: (22:29:06)Final actions for the evening?
umbrafer: (22:31:01)(C'mon, you know you want to roll Make Commcall)
Dragcrell: (22:31:36)mmmm nothing that I can think of for now going to read up and get famiure with what I well be haveing to do if we end up needing the host to be at my command tho I'm hopeing the smugling idea works out as it is the simplest but how EVER if the host is the trow away one and is for the shock sensers we could if needed blow a hole in the awakened area from the sewer pipe
Dragcrell: (22:33:00)ether way I'll be a good player and be studding the rules that I well be useing for this gambit take care
circlmastr: (22:34:07)Fuma still demands knowledge.
umbrafer: (22:35:17)¥50 and a pack of luckies
umbrafer: (22:35:42)(I will try to really get you the answer on Wave tomorrow, when I actually do my Wave-stuff-on-Tuesday gig for once)
everguard4: (22:35:54) btw, Friday good?
umbrafer: (22:36:06)Works for me
circlmastr: (22:36:56)What's Friday?
Thematrian1: (22:37:32)a face-to-face meetup, welcome to everyone who doesn't live on the wrong God-damned coast
Thematrian1: (22:37:36)::shake fist::
circlmastr: (22:37:54):-(
circlmastr: (22:37:59)Wait, what coast do you live on?
Thematrian1: (22:38:04)the East.  Boston.
circlmastr: (22:38:15)...So why are you shaking your fist?
Thematrian1: (22:38:38)on your behalf
circlmastr: (22:38:44)Ah.
circlmastr: (22:39:00)Well the sentiment is appreciated if briefly confusing.
Thematrian1: (22:39:03)Yeah, I'm set up perfectly, I can walk to Jon's house.
Thematrian1: (22:39:08)to his parents' chagrin
circlmastr: (22:39:34)Are they racist against people with legs?
umbrafer: (22:40:07)For some reason, Pater is willing to encourage you to walk the whole way, but not to allow you to walk from Ashmont Station
Thematrian1: (22:40:07)I dunno, but it was apparently a major project to keep them from coming and collecting me off the street
Thematrian1: (22:40:33)I don't mind walking the whole way, the weather's been amazing lately
Thematrian1: (22:40:56)(that's one nice thing about California I guess; the weather we get two weeks a year, and treasure, you guys get all the time)
umbrafer: (22:41:09)(Though you should take the trolley sometime; it's cute)
Thematrian1: (22:44:02)sometime
circlmastr: (22:45:14)It actually rained today.
Thematrian1: (22:45:32)is that a rare occurrence?
circlmastr: (22:45:44)It's a big deal when it rains.  Most of the idiots living here don't realize that wet roads are slightly more hazardous than dry ones, and spinouts are not uncommon.
Thematrian1: (22:46:04)aw man
Thematrian1: (22:46:22)to get your driver's license here in MA, you have to go to a special what-to-do-when-your-car-starts-to-skid class
Thematrian1: (22:46:34)for which I have on occasion been grateful
circlmastr: (22:46:38)We probably get about 2 weeks of rain per year.
circlmastr: (22:46:44)...
Thematrian1: (22:46:55)suddenly those water shortage problems one hears about for California make a lot more sense
circlmastr: (22:47:21)That was some severe chat lag.
Thematrian1: (22:47:33)yeah, it seems to be that sort of night
circlmastr: (22:47:57)But yeah, southern California basically gets no water of its own, we import most of it from northern California (suckers)
Thematrian1: (22:47:59)thanks to this shittily-design protocol I keep timing out
Thematrian1: (22:48:04)Jon hasn't been heard from in some time
Thematrian1: (22:48:04)etc
circlmastr: (22:48:27)His vernjonal SN signed off, according to my buddy list.
umbrafer: (22:49:13)Oh, it did?
umbrafer: (22:49:15)Huh.
circlmastr: (22:50:14)For some reason the past couple sessions, I've been inclined to have Fuma spend a chunk of nuyen on something impulsive and/or impractical.
umbrafer: (22:50:36)Like what?
circlmastr: (22:50:47)I don't know.
Thematrian1: (22:51:00)Clip's been wanting a hospital
Thematrian1: (22:51:01)just sayin'
circlmastr: (22:51:09)That would put a severe dent in my bankroll.
Thematrian1: (22:51:26)damn right it would.  They're so impractical it borders on ridiculous
umbrafer: (22:51:27)Pretty severe, yeah
circlmastr: (22:51:29)Unless you could get it without street index.  In which case it's less of a dent.
Thematrian1: (22:51:30)but he wants one anyway
Thematrian1: (22:51:46)nah, it's than n^4 term
umbrafer: (22:51:53)"Connected: Hospitals"
Thematrian1: (22:51:55)always bad news, those
Thematrian1: (22:51:56)hahaha
Thematrian1: (22:52:02)I almost took Connected: Drugs
circlmastr: (22:52:07)Hm.  I thought it just counted as a Medical Facility.
Thematrian1: (22:52:12)It got cut for Aptitude: Biotech
Thematrian1: (22:52:15)there are TN mods for surgery
Thematrian1: (22:52:20)an extra -1 over what I have now IIRC
circlmastr: (22:52:48)A medical Facility would cost, IIRC, 800k after SI.
Thematrian1: (22:52:53)though, again IIRC, I'm already looking for 2s when doing facial reconstructive surgery
Thematrian1: (22:53:07)which reminds me, once we know each other well enough, feel free to apply for your free +1 Charisma
circlmastr: (22:53:26)I introduced you to Dunkelzahn, I think you owe me that much at least.
Thematrian1: (22:53:46)indeed!  This one's on the house.
Thematrian1: (22:54:08)I've also been reading up on the personafixing-my-enemies process
Thematrian1: (22:54:11)if you remember that conversation
Thematrian1: (22:54:16)turns out to be a lot easier than I thought
circlmastr: (22:54:30)In fact I think Clip should bring it up himself, prefaced with something like "I know I can never pay you back for a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity like meeting Dunkelzahn, but..."
Thematrian1: (22:54:43)well, in a way it's an insult
Thematrian1: (22:54:45)like
Thematrian1: (22:54:51)"I could make so much less fugly, just say the word
Thematrian1: (22:55:12)But that is a good lead-in
circlmastr: (22:55:30)I don't think going from Charisma 6 to 7 is that huge a leap.
Thematrian1: (22:55:50)in game terms, sure.  But IC it's all a matter of phrasing.
umbrafer: (22:55:53)I was thinking more like "hey, we're about to split untold millions four ways, want to go under full anesthesia so I can operate on you?"
Thematrian1: (22:55:56)look how touchy people are about RL plastic surgery
Thematrian1: (22:56:09)Yeah, this would be after we've split the millions
Thematrian1: (22:56:12)for precisely that reason
Thematrian1: (22:56:20)though given the discussion we just had about personafix chips
Thematrian1: (22:56:25)you should be at least a little concerned
circlmastr: (22:57:05)No little p-fix chip is a match for DOLPH LUNDGREN!
Thematrian1: (22:59:29)yeah, that's probably true :-(
Thematrian1: (22:59:41)the unfortunate thing about personafix is the case where it doesn't work
Thematrian1: (22:59:57)but if someone really annoys you, remember that the Sunshine Clinic is always in need of janitorial staff
circlmastr: (23:00:50)Renraku Arcology Shutdown: a massive cover for the oyabun's desperate need of household staff.
circlmastr: (23:03:32)It's a real problem, trying to think of something to buy that is fun but also visible in the game somehow.
Thematrian1: (23:04:20)hmmmm
circlmastr: (23:04:33)I mean, theoretically I drove to the fundraiser in my Westwind 2000 Turbo, but it didn't come up.
circlmastr: (23:04:47)So buying another one and making them race would be amusingly wasteful but never come up.
Thematrian1: (23:04:55)And though shoe would be impressed by that, the rest of us aren't likely to know the different
Thematrian1: (23:05:20)I'm thinking property
Thematrian1: (23:05:25)you should help me take over the Sprawl
circlmastr: (23:05:49)I imagine a Eurocar Westwind is visibly different from the typical Ford Americar and other drek.  Much like the Lambourghini is highly recognizable (and hard to spell).
umbrafer: (23:05:52)One hospital at a time
circlmastr: (23:06:35)I already have three pieces of property.  Naturally you guys haven't been to my waterfront villa Downtown to check out the original Da Vinci I have.
Thematrian1: (23:06:44)is it?  I'm looking at some pictures and it just kinda looks like a car
Thematrian1: (23:06:57)a car with lots of curves, instead of a boxy one like mine
Thematrian1: (23:07:01)but a car, nevertheless
Thematrian1: (23:07:32)that would earn you only Clip's contempt
Thematrian1: (23:07:38)if only because he'd assume you stole it
umbrafer: (23:07:48)Does it matter?
umbrafer: (23:07:49)I mean
Thematrian1: (23:07:56)he's a smart guy, but he has some blind spots WRT what kind of wealth exists in the SR community
Thematrian1: (23:08:07)to Clip it would
umbrafer: (23:08:08)If he didn't steal it, he bought it with funds obtained by stealing something else
umbrafer: (23:08:15)Or shooting someone in the face
circlmastr: (23:08:21)Space: Luxury (5) - This waterfront villa boasts a garage the size of other family homes, eight bedrooms, six and a half baths, an indoor pool with hot tub and sauna, two bonus rooms, a rec room, a kitchen large enough to feed an army, a dining room large enough to seat the army you're feeding, and a living room large enough to host drinks and hors d'oeurves for the army before or after dinner. 
Thematrian1: (23:08:21)I don't claim it makes sense
umbrafer: (23:08:26)Hehehe
Thematrian1: (23:08:33)we're talking about the guy who fashioned his ally spirit after his daughter
Thematrian1: (23:08:41)the one he hasn't spoken to since she was an infant
Thematrian1: (23:08:48)but that he spies on, to keep his ally spirit's image current
circlmastr: (23:08:58)Maybe Clip's real name is Humbert Humbert.
Thematrian1: (23:09:00)this is not a stable guy, is I guess what I'm trying to say
Thematrian1: (23:09:03)nah, it's not like that
circlmastr: (23:09:08)Or is it?
Thematrian1: (23:09:09)which is not to say it's right
Thematrian1: (23:09:19)just not that particular kind of wrong
circlmastr: (23:11:37)Oh man.
circlmastr: (23:11:37)How much of a mindfuck would it be for Fuma to find and start dating Clip's daughter?
Thematrian1: (23:11:38)she's 12
Thematrian1: (23:11:38)so a large one
Thematrian1: (23:11:38)on many levels
Thematrian1: (23:11:38)but if she were the appropriate age...
circlmastr: (23:11:38)Just in the sense of "I can get whatever I want, even your family"
Thematrian1: (23:11:38)honestly, I have no idea how Clip would react to that
circlmastr: (23:11:46)I'm guessing "not well"
Thematrian1: (23:11:59)very possibly
Thematrian1: (23:12:08)and he's a mage, and you're not, and this is SR, so I'd watch it ;-)
circlmastr: (23:12:25)Hey, don't make me go Predator on your ass.
circlmastr: (23:12:29)You can't zap what you can't see. ;-)
Thematrian1: (23:12:39)sure I can, just at +2 for AstralVision
umbrafer: (23:12:40)That goes both ways, though
umbrafer: (23:12:43)Oh, that too
circlmastr: (23:12:52)Damn.
Thematrian1: (23:13:11)it's an unfair situation, and I won't pretend otherwise
circlmastr: (23:13:28)Well then I'll just use my copious amounts of explosives and/or toxins to ruin your day remotely.
Thematrian1: (23:13:31)Yeah, I would definitely need my first strike to end you
Thematrian1: (23:13:39)the alternative is worrisome, as I have a fixed address
Thematrian1: (23:13:48)I think the term of the day is "Ritual Sorcery"
circlmastr: (23:13:52)Nothing says love like Green Ring 8 gas grenades.
Thematrian1: (23:13:54)or maybe "Ally Spirits with grenades"
Thematrian1: (23:14:00)but I haven't had a chance to try that out yet
Thematrian1: (23:14:12)Natalie has Strength 4, and can fly, so there's all kinds of cool stuff she can do
Thematrian1: (23:14:22)she was central to my original escape plan for the federal building run
circlmastr: (23:14:44)In any case, it doesn't matter since I have no plans to antagonize the party.
Thematrian1: (23:14:48)likewise
Thematrian1: (23:15:06)(I did give her Fling, though, so she has some offensive firepower)
Thematrian1: (23:15:09)(Fling: so broken)
umbrafer: (23:15:29)(Remind me?)
circlmastr: (23:15:38)But it's very interesting to have a character that's half Seattle Aristocracy and half Heroic Sociopath and wonder how to spend my money.
Thematrian1: (23:15:47)(It lets you throw an object with your Sorcery skill)
Thematrian1: (23:16:00)yeah, I have a feeling I'm going to be thinking about that problem at work tomorrow
Thematrian1: (23:16:31)like, what does Fuma want?
Thematrian1: (23:16:31)I guess not money
Thematrian1: (23:16:31)power?
Thematrian1: (23:16:31)political influence?
circlmastr: (23:16:31)More money is always good.
umbrafer: (23:16:48)Yeah, but his problem is how to spend it
circlmastr: (23:16:57)Political influence is always good.  But blowing things up is fun.  And he has these toxic grenades he hasn't had a chance to play with either.
circlmastr: (23:17:18)But on the flip side, assaulting a supermax prison is bad because he'll die.
Thematrian1: (23:17:26)how good is milspec armor really?
Thematrian1: (23:17:28)I don't remember
umbrafer: (23:17:32)You could wipe out the minimum-security branch wholesale, then sneak into the supermax part while everyone is responding
circlmastr: (23:17:35)11/11 hardened.
Thematrian1: (23:17:49)and you have how many damage resistance dice again?
circlmastr: (23:17:56)6 Body
umbrafer: (23:18:07)It's excellent against anyone who doesn't know they're facing it (well, unless they have AP rounds anyway)
circlmastr: (23:18:12)9 combat pool with the armor on.
circlmastr: (23:18:35)Yeah, APDS and AV ammo ruins my day.
circlmastr: (23:19:04)But otherwise I can happily murder people without concern for personal safety.
Thematrian1: (23:19:38)I never thought about it, but the whole fragile vehicle problem applies to people in milspec too
umbrafer: (23:19:52)Sorta
umbrafer: (23:19:54)I mean
umbrafer: (23:20:05)Ultimately Power+armor divisors ruins people's days
Thematrian1: (23:20:06)they have ways of getting more DR dice than a vehicle
Thematrian1: (23:20:07)granted
umbrafer: (23:20:16)But a Troll in Full Milspec
circlmastr: (23:20:54)I'm sorely tempted to wait for Clip to call him about the meet re: intimidation, and then have Fuma say "Can we put it off another night?  I'm going to dinner with Passion Synclaire that night."
Thematrian1: (23:22:13)you've already arranged an event with goddamned Dunkelzahn
Thematrian1: (23:22:18)I assure you, Clip's mind is entirely blown
Thematrian1: (23:22:41)honestly, your only problem with him right now is I have no idea how you'd top that
circlmastr: (23:23:07)By fucking Nadja Daviar (which is my plan)
Thematrian1: (23:23:10)well, that's not really something Clip can be involved with
circlmastr: (23:23:14)And en-Contact-en-ing her, of course.
Thematrian1: (23:23:18)hahaha
circlmastr: (23:23:28)(I actually have karma saved up for it.)
Thematrian1: (23:23:53)that's commendable, but I don't think the ordinary contact rules really cover her
Thematrian1: (23:24:03)I would expect a premium
circlmastr: (23:24:22)Hey, I threw a goddamn fundraiser for her at my own expense, I think that covers monetary and RP costs.
Thematrian1: (23:25:23)for her?
Thematrian1: (23:25:23)thought it was for Dunkie?
circlmastr: (23:25:33)Same diff.
Thematrian1: (23:25:33)?
Thematrian1: (23:26:23)maybe there's some SR lore I'm missing
Thematrian1: (23:26:23)but what's the connection?
circlmastr: (23:26:23)She's Dunkie's "voice"/spokeswoman.
circlmastr: (23:26:23)And one he gets assassinated she becomes VP, plus head of the Draco Foundation.
Thematrian1: (23:26:55)ohhhh
Thematrian1: (23:26:59)I see
Thematrian1: (23:27:16)I did kinda wonder why you were throwing fundraisers for Dunkelzahn
Thematrian1: (23:27:23)but it's coming into focus now
circlmastr: (23:27:37)Well, Dunkie is cool and awesome in his own right as well.
circlmastr: (23:27:42)And I get the meta-satisfaction of backing the winning horse.
Thematrian1: (23:27:42)Clip would definitely agree
Thematrian1: (23:27:53)for however long it takes him to get assassinated, sure
circlmastr: (23:28:04)How often can you meet a GD in person and have it be that amicable and equitable?
Thematrian1: (23:28:09)once
Thematrian1: (23:28:14)but he'll remember it for the rest of his lfie
circlmastr: (23:28:14)Exactly.
circlmastr: (23:29:08)You can meet Lofwyr or Hestaby face to face, but they'd be about to eat you or use and manipulate you.  You'd be their plaything.
Thematrian1: (23:29:48)there's a canon adventure along those lines, isn't there?
Thematrian1: (23:29:48)Survival of the FittesT?
circlmastr: (23:30:33)This was a chance to be on relatively equal terms with Dunkelzahn himself.  "Oh hey, I was feeling a bit bored so I rounded up Seattle's rich and famous to support you.  Yeah, I've got that much power and clout.  You're welcome."
circlmastr: (23:31:02)I don't know, I haven't read many of the canon adventures.
umbrafer: (23:32:12)Yeah, SotF
umbrafer: (23:32:30)About being a pawn in a contest of Dragons
circlmastr: (23:33:20)So yeah.  I think Fuma established himself as a player rather than a pawn, and worthy of Contact-en-ing Nadja Daviar.
umbrafer: (23:33:45)I also need to make proper contact rules so I can  de-Edgeify FiHP
circlmastr: (23:35:10)We got 66k upfront, split how many ways?  4?
Thematrian1: (23:36:08)There are four of us, so sure
umbrafer: (23:36:09)Unless you were planning on killing someone off
Thematrian1: (23:36:17)though I feel like bribe money should be budgeted separately
circlmastr: (23:36:26)Just making sure.  I just realized I forgot to add that to my balance sheet.
circlmastr: (23:36:46)Fuma has a hair over 1.1 million nuyen in cash.
Thematrian1: (23:37:09)so the extract 16k or so is HUEG
circlmastr: (23:37:16)Well, it pushed me over the 1.1M mark.
Thematrian1: (23:37:16)seriously though...what can you buy with a meganuyen that's interesting?
umbrafer: (23:37:40)One ninth of a hospital?
circlmastr: (23:37:55)Hospitals are nine million bucks?  Under what rules?
Thematrian1: (23:38:03)the ones in M&M :-(
circlmastr: (23:38:07)Fuck that noise.
Thematrian1: (23:40:43)well, ok, how else would you calculate it?
Thematrian1: (23:40:57)(if anything, 9 million seems low, not that I can exactly Ebay them to get a price comparison)
circlmastr: (23:41:02)As a Facility in the SR3 core book?
umbrafer: (23:41:16)As a Facility they aren't a Hospital
circlmastr: (23:41:18)With an appropriate Lifestyle on top
Thematrian1: (23:41:27)hmmm...interesting thought, but for all I joke about it Biotech != Person B/R
circlmastr: (23:42:40)I could buy a seat on a hospital's board of directors and make them employ you.  You could be my pet House!
circlmastr: (23:43:13)You're already insane, you just need a cane and you're set.
Thematrian1: (23:43:26)did House have a history of drug abuse
circlmastr: (23:43:33)Yes indeed.
circlmastr: (23:43:36)Vicodin.
Thematrian1: (23:43:37)oooh
Thematrian1: (23:43:46)the comparison is unexpec...Vicodin?
Thematrian1: (23:43:48)feh
circlmastr: (23:44:29)You should have seen the early seasons.  He takes enough Vicodin in one day to kill someone several times over.
Thematrian1: (23:46:58)haha
Thematrian1: (23:46:58)(Clip has Infirm 5, which I describe as 'a crippling history of drug abuse, now conquered, ish)
circlmastr: (23:46:58)Yeah, that's pretty much House.
Thematrian1: (23:46:58)hmmm
Thematrian1: (23:46:59)House was popular, so I assumed it sucked
Thematrian1: (23:46:59)but I may have to check it out
circlmastr: (23:47:20)It's not exactly high art, but it's got its moments.
Thematrian1: (23:48:38)I didn't realize I was playing a character of such relevant
Thematrian1: (23:48:42)relevance
circlmastr: (23:49:13)Your character would have to take a stack of Performance skills before I start calling him Hugh Laurie, though.
Thematrian1: (23:51:38)that's ok\
Thematrian1: (23:51:39)I don't want to be Hugh Laurie
Thematrian1: (23:51:39)(I assume that's House's name, somehow)
circlmastr: (23:51:39)Why not?
Thematrian1: (23:51:39)Clip is his own brand of screwed up fallen angel
circlmastr: (23:51:39)(That's the name of the actor who plays House.)
Thematrian1: (23:51:39)(Oh.  That does make more sense)
circlmastr: (23:51:39)Hugh Laurie is a badass musical and comedic genius.
circlmastr: (23:51:39)Much like Dolph Lundgren is a badass genius of badassedness.
umbrafer: (23:52:54)Speaking of which, you've heard about The Expendables?
Thematrian1: (23:52:59)I haven't
circlmastr: (23:53:13)Is that the action movie with every action star ever?
umbrafer: (23:54:24)Sylvester Stallone, Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren, Bruce Willis, and Arnold Schwarzenegger are the names I remember offhand
circlmastr: (23:55:24)And Jason Statham, Steve Austin, Randy Couture, Mickey Rourke..
circlmastr: (23:56:16)Eric Roberts, Danny Trejo...
Thematrian1: (23:56:27)yeah, these names are getting less and less recognizable
Thematrian1: (23:56:31)tell me some plot?
circlmastr: (23:56:32)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6RU5y2fU6s
circlmastr: (23:56:43)Eric Roberts was the mobster from The Dark Knight.
everguard4: (23:57:00) *waves* night all
umbrafer: (23:57:18)I don't know the plot, but with that cast, I'm not convinced I need to
Thematrian1: (23:57:52)hah
Thematrian1: (23:57:59)in what sense do you mean that?
circlmastr: (23:59:34)There's going to be a plot?  But that'll just get in the way!
umbrafer: (23:59:45)Well, it's hard to pass up an opportunity to see Dolph Lundgren in action, let alone Dolph Lundgren plus everyone else on that list
Thematrian1: (23:59:50)fine, I'll IMDB it myself, you guys
circlmastr: (23:59:59)I linked you to a trailer.
circlmastr: (0:00:06)That explains pretty well what's going on.
Thematrian1: (0:00:37)"Barney Ross (Sylvester Stallone) is a man with nothing to lose. Fearless and void of emotion, he is the leader, the sage and the strategist of this tight-knit band of men who live on the fringe. His only attachment is to his pickup truck, his seaplane and his team of loyal modern-day warriors."
Thematrian1: (0:00:39)there
Thematrian1: (0:00:42)was that so hard?
umbrafer: (0:01:20)I still think the cast list we gave was more informative
Thematrian1: (0:02:39)of what, though?  I've no interest in action movies qua action movies?
umbrafer: (0:07:08)Based on the results of my attempts to put into words the qualitative difference that I believe the quantity of action will produce, I think I'm going to go to sleep now
Thematrian1: (0:07:27)heh
circlmastr: (0:07:31)Fair enow.